Underground Knowledge group members have their say on abortion… YOU are welcome to have YOUR say…

Posted: June 2, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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In the latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com, we ask members Do you believe abortion should be legal or illegal? Interim results show three-quarters of poll respondents say is it should be legal.

 

 

In posing the question, we asked members to discount extreme cases (like pregnancies resulting from incest or rape as well as mothers who are too sick to carry a child full-term) when casting their votes.

Interim poll results are as follows: 75% say abortion should be legal; 18% say it should be illegal; and 7% are undecided.

 

A selection of poll respondents’ comments follow:

The government should keep their laws out of my vagina. How i feel about abortions is my business.

It’s obviously a freedom of choice issue. There’s no other argument to be had.

Interesting topic that will surely bring out people’s gut feelings and strong emotions. I will simply post this amazing video that I saw just a few months ago: http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/stunning-v…

Here in the US, it doesn’t matter much what we think, the Supreme Court already affirmed it as a woman’s right. I myself am against it, but I’m not going to begrudge a woman who has to make that choice. Instead of trying to chip away at access, government’s focus should be on making sure these clinics are safe and regulated.

Hearing male legislators talk about “gifts” of rape and braying other truly ignorant positions, a woman’s right to choose has to be protected. When it comes to aborting a child because you want one of a different sex I do feel very uncomfortable. When it comes to abortion because of sex without care or caution of birth control, I do feel very uncomfortable.

Birth control can fail and if a woman can’t afford a baby she should have the choice to kick it back to stardust so it can reincarnate and be with a family who wants it.    

I think medical abortions are necessary for many reasons, but I do believe people need to take responsibility for the consequences of their sexuality by using birth control devices… Abortion is definitely a choice, a choice to terminate a life you created out of carelessness, be wise and and practice contraception with your partners. No excuses.    

Abortion is the premeditated murder of a new human son of God ! All the living components to make an ascending son of God are in the living sperm-living egg union! 

I do not like the idea of abortion or of suicide. While I have my preferences, I do not have the hubris to assume that my preferences gives me the right to determine actions that have nothing to do with me.

 

Poll ends June 30.

To view more comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Our Underground Knowledge discussion group is aimed at those with an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times.

Everyone’s welcome to join! All you need is an enquiring mind and a desire to learn. Our members include scientists, social activists, teachers, historians, authors, former military and intelligence agency personnel, bankers, housewives, whistleblowers, students, former police officers, journalists, readers and many more.

Visit the Underground Knowledge discussion group at: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

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Check out our ‘Underground Knowledge’ group if you seek underground knowledge…Group membership tops 1,900 on Goodreads

Posted: May 10, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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The 2016 US Presidential Elections, vaccinating children, 9/11, chimp/human hybrids, Edward Snowden, combatting Holocaust denialism, spotting sociopaths, cancer cures, Julian Assange, false flags, UFO sightings, homes for homeless, universal healthcare..…These are just a few of the threads in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on the literary site Goodreads.com.

Group membership has just topped 1,900 confirming its status as one of the fastest-growing (as well as most active) groups on Goodreads!

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Links to a random selection of the Underground Knowledge group’s discussion threads follow:

Where do you guys get your daily news from?

Evidence for scientifically advanced Ancient civilizations?   

Is McDonalds actually food?

James Morcan’s rant against Holocaust Deniers  

Does the UK control the US? And did America ever achieve full independence from Britain?

Book of Genesis – not an original document?

Was 9/11 a false flag attack and ‘Inside Job’? 54% of you voted YES

The Queen’s position in modern Britain  

The Monster Study

Hollywood stars on Ormus  

The Untold History of The United States

The heroin connection  

Universal income

The multi-trillion dollar WW2 cover-up  

Finding (hiding) a cure for cancer

Other UFO theories  

Illuminati

The 2016 U.S. Presidential Election    

The overpopulation myth (part 1)

Bobby Kennedy – “RFK must die”  

Unit 731 – the Japanese Auschwitz

The MK-Ultra theory  

…………And the list goes on!

 

To visit the Underground Knowledge group go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

New members welcome! In fact…y’all welcome!

 

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Holocaust survivor recommends book to everyone who has an open mind

Posted: May 9, 2016 in Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories
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Holocaust survivor Peter Kubicek, who contributed in no small way to our new release book DEBUNKING HOLOCAUST DENIAL THEORIES: Two Non-Jews Affirm the Historicity of the Nazi Genocide, describes the book as a “First-rate contribution to an important topic” in his review just posted on Amazon.

 

Peter Kubicek

Survivor Peter Kubicek

 

Peter’s review follows in full:

First-rate contribution to an important topic. ★★★★★

This book is the result of prodigious research. James and Lance Morcan consulted noted scholars of the Holocaust. After James Morcan discovered my book, entitled “Memories of Evil — Recalling a World War II Childhood,” he wrote a review of same on his website. Thereafter he asked me lots of questions via e-mail: about life in the concentration camps, about my life in the U.S. after the WWII. He also asked me many questions about anti-Semitism and Holocaust-denial in the U.S. I kept feeding him material on this topic and it turned that he used in his book.

I consider James and Lance Morcan true renaissance men. I recommend their book to everyone who has an open mind and wishes to learn more about this important topic.

 

Peter Kubicek is the author of Memories of Evil: Recalling a World War II Childhood, which James reviewed recently. (See blog post of March 11). You can find Memories of Evil on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Memories-Evil-Recalling-World-Childhood-ebook/dp/B00A6U49BK/

 

Readers are resonating with Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories if early reviews are any guide.

A sample of reviewers’ comments follows:

★★★★★ “One further nail in the coffin of Holocaust denial.”

★★★★ “The Morcans give the reader an important examination of the issues of the mass murder of the Jewish people.”

★★★★★ “I was taken on a traumatic historical journey.”

★★★★★ “Well researched and well thought out.”

★★★★★ “A must read for students of the Holocaust.”

 

DEBUNKING HOLOCAUST DENIAL THEORIES: Two Non-Jews Affirm the Historicity of the Nazi Genocide

 

Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories is exclusive to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/DEBUNKING-HOLOCAUST-DENIAL-THEORIES-Historicity-ebook/dp/B01EYY7T7Y/

 

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Book’s release coincides with Holocaust Remembrance Day

Posted: May 5, 2016 in Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories
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Debunking the deniers

The following article promoting our new release book appears on J-Wire, the digital Jewish news daily for Australia and New Zealand. The timing coincides with Yom HaShoah, Israel’s day of remembrance (May 4/5) for the six million Jews who perished in the Holocaust. Here’s the article unabridged:
May 5, 2016 by J-Wire Staff

A New Zealand father and son have published a book debunking Holocaust deniers’ theories.

Coinciding with Yom Hashoah “Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories” has been released written by non-Jews Lance and James Morcan. The book’s sub-title is  “Two Non-Jews Affirm the Historicity of the Nazi Genocide”.

James and Lance Morcan

The book was written in close consultation with Holocaust survivors and World War Two historians. The writers say that no stone was left unturned in meticulously verifying the historical facts of the genocide. The Morcans present a wide array of sources including Nazi documentation, eyewitness accounts, scientific reports and shocking photographic evidence to shut down the debate deniers wish to create.

‘Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories’,  published by Sterling Gate Books, is already attracting critical acclaim.

In her review Pam Blevins, Regional Museum Educator at United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, describes it as “Excellent book to debunk denial theories”.

Holocaust-ebook-coverMs Blevin’s review reads in part: “It is well researched and well thought out… In this well documented book, they (the authors) attack five areas deniers talk about and prove the deniers wrong… They discuss the 6 million number figure that deniers claim is wrong; the gas chamber exterminations that are claimed to be false… They use Nazi documents, survivor accounts, eyewitness accounts, scientific tests and results, and photographs (almost entirely Nazi photographs) to prove their case… The book is a must read for students of the Holocaust and World War II as well as for deniers or those who are conflicted as to the authenticity of the Holocaust.”

Speaking from Sydney, Australia, today, author and filmmaker James Morcan says the book was inspired by the alarming rise in anti-Semitism globally.

“We endeavour to show readers that anti-Semitism is not only the root cause of every form of Holocaust denial, but also the reason for the relentless persecution of the Jews since Biblical times,” says Morcan. “Hopefully, our book will give the deniers something to think about as well as helping those who wish to learn more about WW2 and the Nazi extermination camps.”

James Morcan told J-Wire: “The cover photo was taken at the Ebensee concentration camp in Austria.

There were no gas chambers at that particular camp, but the victims were used for horrific “scientific” experiments.
Many victims died slow, painful deaths at the hands of Mengele-type Nazi doctors…
I have spent much of this year to date looking at all the photographic evidence from the Holocaust.
It has been traumatic even to look at all the photos from the genocide.
I co-wrote this book with my father Lance Morcan (a former journalist) and as per the subtitle, we are both gentiles. We wrote it in close consultation with Holocaust survivors especially our good friend New York-based survivor Peter Kubicek (author of Memories of Evil: Recalling a World War II Childhood).
 
Our intentions with this book are to aid in ending Holocaust denial for good and also combat rising anti-Semitism.”

‘Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories’ is exclusive to Amazon and is available as a Kindle eBook via http://www.amazon.com/DEBUNKING-HOLOCAUST-DENIAL-THEORIES-Historicity-ebook/dp/B01EYY7T7Y/

To view the original article on J-Wire go to: http://www.jwire.com.au/debunking-the-deniers/

 

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Book launch: ‘Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories’

Posted: April 30, 2016 in Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories
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Our latest book,  DEBUNKING HOLOCAUST DENIAL THEORIES: Two Non-Jews Affirm the Historicity of the Nazi Genocide, aims to end Holocaust denial once and for all by tackling the bizarre phenomenon head-on.

 

Holocaust ebook cover

New book inspired by the alarming global rise in anti-Semitism.

 

Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories  was written in close consultation with Holocaust survivors and World War Two historians, and no stone is left unturned in meticulously verifying the historical facts of the genocide. We present a wide array of sources including Nazi documentation, eyewitness accounts, scientific reports and shocking photographic evidence to shut down the debate deniers wish to create.

One by one, the various arguments Holocaust deniers use to try to discredit wartime records are carefully scrutinized and then systematically disproven. Theories debunked include: the six million death toll figure being an exaggeration; gas chamber exterminations being fictitious; Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich being wrongly vilified; the analysis of Holocaust records being a taboo due to specific laws in Europe criminalizing deniers; “Evil Zionists” and Israel being so powerful that they can censor history.

The Holocaust is shown in this book’s pages to be one of the most well-documented and most historically and forensically-proven crimes of the 20th Century. In the process, many of the world’s most infamous deniers, including disgraced British historian David Irving and the former President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, are revealed to be nothing but anti-Semites seeking to further denigrate, undermine and demoralize the world’s Jewish population.

In this enlightening read that covers more than two millennia of global history, anti-Semitism is shown not only to be the root cause of every form of Holocaust denial, but also the reason for the relentless persecution of the Jews since Biblical times. The authors quote verbatim the often sickening and always baseless comments of kings, emperors, politicians, popes, bishops and muftis about the Jews and why they chose to commit numerous genocides against them over the centuries. These historical quotes prove eerily similar to the vicious anti-Semitic statements made by Holocaust deniers of this era…

If you wish to learn more about WW2 and the Nazi extermination camps, if you are confused by all the convoluted conspiracy theories circulating on the Internet about the Holocaust, or if you are currently a denier yourself, then this book is a must read.

 

Product Details

 

Debunking Holocaust Denial Theories  is exclusive to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/DEBUNKING-HOLOCAUST-DENIAL-THEORIES-Historicity-ebook/dp/B01EYY7T7Y/

 

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Probing book asks: What goes on beneath our feet?

Posted: April 26, 2016 in Underground Bases
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There’s a long list of claims regarding the existence of underground bases around the world – and an equally long list of claims regarding the nefarious activities of the global elite and their pawns in these underground bases. We address these claims in our new release book UNDERGROUND BASES: Subterranean Military Facilities and the Cities Beneath Our Feet.

 

UNDERGROUND BASES: Subterranean Military Facilities and the Cities Beneath Our Feet (The Underground Knowledge Series Book 7)

 

In a chapter titled ‘What goes on beneath the surface?’, we expand on this.

Here’s an excerpt:

Some say the global elite have clandestine prisons where officially designated missing persons and others who have dropped off the grid are held captive; some believe human-alien joint ventures are taking place in these bases to further black technologies or to advance certain species.

When it comes to suppressed science, the hit sci-fi television series Warehouse 13, which aired for five seasons until mid-2014, probably best portrays the secret science bunker concept. The basic plot has two US Secret Service Agents assigned to a top-secret government warehouse to protect scientific discoveries and radical technologies invented by Nikola Tesla and others – none of which the public are aware. The premise of a largely underground warehouse storing suppressed discoveries and inventions is based on conspiracy theories that have been swirling around for decades.

Surprisingly, these wild conspiracy theories are not wholly unsubstantiated. There have also been some reports from former military engineers and government geologists about supersonic transportation systems underground. Who knows, maybe the global elite travel between cities and countries below ground, utilizing the underworld’s rumored faster transportation methods?

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“The other guy also said there was scuttlebutt of an underground rail system that ran under the FEMA facility. Just as he said that, we felt a low rumbling beneath our feet like a subway. We noticed some suits coming in our direction and headed off.” –David Icke, Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More

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It has also been claimed that radical biological experiments take place in the Splinter Civilization’s underworld. The kind that the laws of the land above ground don’t allow – such as unsanctioned forms of genetic engineering, human cloning and illegal drug testing by pharmaceutical corporations.

Some conspiracy theorists who believe complex viruses like HIV/AIDS, SARS and Ebola are all manmade, have even theorized that these viruses are manufactured and tested in underground facilities before being unleashed above ground.

 

An image supposedly smuggled out of Dulce Base, NM.

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“Dr. Michael E. Salla, initiator of “exopolitics” and author of a book entitled EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE expressed his belief that there is a joint US/alien underground bio-lab beneath the Archuleta Mesa and that this must be addressed as a serious human rights abuse issue.” –Norio Hayakawa, official report of the Dulce Base Conference of 2009 in New Mexico.

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T.B.C.

 

Underground Bases  is Book #7 in The Underground Knowledge Series  and is available exclusively via Amazon:  http://www.amazon.com/UNDERGROUND-BASES-Subterranean-Facilities-Underground-ebook/dp/B0184KA4KS/

 

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Underground Knowledge group poll result shows most against fluoride

Posted: April 17, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Most people don’t want the authorities to add fluoride to our water supply. That’s if interim results of the latest poll results in our Underground Knowledge group on Goodreads.com  are any guide.

In response to the question Do you believe fluoride should be in your town’s water supply?  more than two thirds of respondents say no.

Interim poll results are:

-67% of respondents say NO

-20% say YES

-13% are unsure.

 

 

Respondents’ comments make for interesting reading. Here’s some random examples:

I vote NO for the following reasons:
Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Reduces Children’s IQ — http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-merc…
This pic lists some facts and theories concerning fluoride and how it apparently is detrimental to human’s health… https://www.goodreads.com/photo/group…
Tap water usually contains high levels of fluoride. Numerous studies have shown fluoride reduces IQ levels and in some cases even causes brain damage.

Fluoride has been considered a neurotoxin for some time now. I just pulled an older article: http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/na…

I can tell you that there’s no conspiracy, only stupidity. Cities take shortcuts and are under pressure to perform (in this case – provide safe water). Organic solutions like ozonation are cost prohibitive, and Fluoride effects are mild and subtle. But, there’s much worse crap in the water in cities, such as human waste, most importantly – diseases, prescription drugs, and many other nasties.

Very interesting question which prompted me to do a little more research on the matter. My initial reaction was an astounding, “Yes”, however, I now have to admit there has to be much more research beyond the Harvard study. To begin with, according to the Flouride Information Network, www.flourideinfo.org, Flouride is found naturally in water supplies coming from the rocks and sediment within those sources. The quantity can range fro 0.12 to over 12 parts per million. I was perusing several sites and came across this one, www.Openparachute.wordpress.coms. Here are a few points they raise about the studies, particularly the Harvard Study.

It’s worth pointing out the Harvard study is literally one of dozens of studies worldwide revealing links between fluoride consumption and low IQ’s in children (not to mention other adverse health effects).

I am unhappy with he Harvard study because (a) The levels of fluoride at times almost enter the toxicity zone, (b) other studies were excluded, but had they been included, the effect would have shrunk, (c) many of those included had other effects present, e.g. iodine deficiency, As, and in the coal-burning regions, there would be a number of other things present.

Mass medication via water is just plain wrong and stupid. Some people eat more foods that naturally contain fluoride. And kids need less than adults. 

 

Poll ends May 1.

To view all comments, or better still to have your say, go to:   https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Book questions doctors’ use of statins for treating high cholesterol in some patients

Posted: April 9, 2016 in Medical Industrial Complex
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The jury seems to be out on whether those cholesterol-lowering drugs known as statins are a good idea for everyone with high cholesterol. We address this in our book MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX: The $ickness Industry, Big Pharma and Suppressed Cures — in a chapter titled “Medical tests you may not need and procedures that may kill you.” (See our blog of February 6 also).

An excerpt from Medical Industrial Complex  follows:

Returning to those “unnecessary repeat cholesterol tests” we touched on at the start of this chapter, Choosing Wisely’s  summation of cholesterol testing, and the statins used in those tests, is interesting. It reports that statins are drugs that lower your cholesterol, but if you are age 75 or older and you haven’t had symptoms of heart disease, “statins may be a bad idea”.

The writer points out that many older adults have high cholesterol and their doctors usually prescribe statins to prevent heart disease even though, for older people, “there is no clear evidence” that high cholesterol leads to heart disease or death.

“In fact, some studies show the opposite—that older people with the lowest cholesterol levels actually have the highest risk of death…Statins can cause muscle problems, such as aches, pains, or weakness (and) may increase the risk of diabetes, cataracts, and damage to the liver, kidneys, and nerves”.

This is reinforced by the Reuters  report also referred to earlier. It quotes Dr. Michael Johansen, of the Ohio State University in Columbus, who says doctors may order more tests to meet or even exceed performance measures “and because they get paid for running a cholesterol panel”.

The report refers to a US study, led by Dr. Salim Virani, of the Michael E. DeBakey Veterans Affairs Medical Center, in Houston, which tracked over 35,000 people with heart disease, and found all had their LDL (‘bad’) cholesterol under control even though they hadn’t recently started taking any new cholesterol drugs.

“Over the 11 months after patients’ most recent cholesterol test, one in three underwent a repeat test. Very few of those patients – about six percent – had any changes made to their treatment regimen as a result of the second test…People with additional health problems, such as diabetes or high blood pressure, were most likely to get their cholesterol panel repeated…The average cost of a cholesterol test is about $16…That works out to almost $204,000 in early tests in their study population – not including the cost of both patients’ and doctors’ time”.

We haven’t devoted much space in this chapter to the unseemly subject of money. (Unseemly in this case because certain factions in the Medical Industrial Complex are clearly creaming it financially while many of its customers/patients are struggling to pay for, or meet, the cost of their healthcare).

However, the Reuters  report referred to above reminds us that someone is paying for every doctor’s appointment, test and screening. Throw in the cost of unnecessary tests and repeat tests (around $16 in the case of a cholesterol test) and you begin to understand the amount of money we are talking about. It’s huge!

Thankfully, as we’ve shown, the medical profession acknowledges there’s a problem, but it will be interesting to see what the powers-that-be do about it. As per usual, we suspect it will be left to us (Joe/Jo Citizen) to keep them honest.

T.B.C.

 

Medical Industrial Complex  is Book #3 in The Underground Knowledge Series  and is available exclusively via Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL-COMPLEX-Suppressed-Underground-ebook/dp/B00Y8Y3TUM/

 

MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX: The $ickness Industry, Big Pharma and Suppressed Cures (The Underground Knowledge Series Book 3)

 

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The war machine, 9/11, Big Pharma, Donald Trump, GMO’s, Snowden, Assange, bank fraud, cancer, US expansion, politics, religion – no topic off limits for Underground Knowledge group members

Posted: April 3, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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The list of discussion threads continues to grow with nothing off limits, no matter how contentious, in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on the major books and authors site Goodreads.com.

 

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At 1700 plus members, the Underground Knowledge group is one of the most active and fast-growing on the popular Goodreads site. Members seem to resonate with the group’s stated aim, which is: To encourage debates about important and underreported issues of our era. All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or share “underground knowledge”.

Our members include members include scientists, social activists, teachers, historians, award-winning authors, former military and intelligence agency personnel, bankers, housewives, whistleblowers, students, former police officers, journalists, readers and many more.

Essentially the term “underground knowledge” covers details and concepts and little-known events that are usually not reported in the Mainstream Media (MSM), or if they are mentioned by MSM they are underreported for various reasons.

Links to a random selection of the group’s discussion threads follow:

 The 2016 U.S. Presidential Election     

What is Terrorism and Who gets to define the term?

Vaccinating children — Is it the smart thing for parents to do?  

Was 9/11 a false flag attack and ‘Inside Job’? 54% of you voted YES

GMO’s (Genetically Modified Organisms)  

The US Military’s proposal to kill American civilians (Operation Northwoods declassified)

Finding (hiding) a cure for cancer  

Meditation, Yoga and intelligence

Brainwashed slaves  

What or who are aliens?

Evidence for scientifically advanced Ancient civilizations?  

The central banking system

Media manipulation

…………And the list goes on!

 

To visit the Underground Knowledge group go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

New members welcome!

 

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Poll asks: Who really beat the Nazis? Most nominate the Soviets

Posted: March 21, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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In the latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com, we ask members Who was most responsible for defeating the Nazis? — and interim poll results show nearly two thirds of respondents (63%) nominate the Soviet Union ahead of the United States (20%) and Britain (17%).

 

 

Poll respondents’ comments make for interesting reading. Here’s a random sample:

When you consider just what the Soviet Union sacrificed to defy the Nazis, (out of the 60 million people who died in the war, 27 million were Soviets!), it’s hard to even consider the Nazis could have ever been defeated had the Soviets been neutral or sided against the Allies. Yes, America was crucial to winning the war also (and the US along with Britain made tremendous sacrifices too), but I think we’ve all been fed propaganda by Western historians to believe the US almost single-handedly won the war. In fact, I think it’s fair to say that the Allies wouldn’t have had a hope of even putting up much of a fight against the Nazis without the might of the Soviet Empire supporting them.

I totally agree. For all their faults, the Red Army won the war in Europe and was, according to some historians, also responsible for the Japanese surrender.

I think Great Britain, because they demoralised Germany and were fighting them on so many fronts. The number of human lives lost was not the deciding factor, so much as keeping Germany busy and too occupied to focus completely on one enemy at a time. 

The history as we (in the USSR) were taught unequivocally claims that USSR borne most of the fighting burden, while allies help was appreciated but was far from decisive, as they were not involved in the ground battles in Europe until less than a last year of WW2. Soviet historians claim that Western Front was opened as late as 1944, when it became clear that USSR had been coming out with the upper hand and would clearly defeat the Nazis and Russian army would sweep through Europe. By then the prospective victory of the Soviet Army was evident.

I’m not sure of the exact estimates but I recall that the Soviets destroyed (killed or captured) 90 per cent of the Nazi forces. It may be less but it certainly was well over 50 per cent. I think they destroyed much of their air force as well.    

Certainly the Soviets took heavy casualties, and I won’t doubt they might have been able to win without our help, but our eventual entry helped by splitting Germany’s forces. Hitler could not shift the bulk of his forces toward the East because of us just as he couldn’t throw them at us in the West because of the Soviet threat. As far as Britain, I’m not sure they could have defeated Hitler without the other two Allies, but they sure put up a hell of a fight before the US got involved.

Some insightful comments here; History is spun by the victors and it is different history in each nation…NOBODY wins by themselves, so that is the main lesson of history here. I would have liked to see Allies as a choice.

 

To view all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to:  https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Poll ends March 31.

 

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