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The CIA recruits a team of foreign mercenaries. They are considered ‘deniable assets’ and go by the unlikely but somewhat prophetic name the Deniables. Their first mission is to repatriate one Moussa Diarra, an African exile, from New York back to his Dogon homeland in Mali, West Africa. Unfortunately, there are militant ethnic factions in Mali intent on preventing Moussa’s return and exterminating his people. His fate is in the hands of the Deniables.

That’s the premise of our upcoming action-thriller The Dogon Initiative (The Deniables, #1).

 

The Dogon Initiative (The Deniables, #1)
New action thriller coming soon!

 

For fans of the action-thriller genre, here’s two early chapters from this novel. In them, a newly formed team of young CIA hotshots plan a new initiative only a very select few at the agency even know about.

CHAPTER 3

Next morning, eight thousand miles away at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, USA, a small, select, think tank group of agency personnel brainstormed a new venture.

The four women and three men present were of various ethnicities and came from diverse socioeconomic backgrounds. Ranging in age from twenty-one to thirty-seven, they were surprisingly young considering the responsibilities and magnitude of the task entrusted to them. All seven dressed casually, looking more like university students than intelligence agents in their dress jeans and casual shirts or T-shirts (and their baseball caps in the case of the two youngest men) and they reclined on beanbags rather than conventional office chairs.

Four of them drank Fair Trade-certified coffee from recycled, environmentally-friendly, reusable, takeaway cups while one of the baseball caps absentmindedly demonstrated his expertise with a yo-yo and the youngest female chewed gum as they bounced ideas off each other.

The vigorous discussion was punctuated with banter, and interjections were frequent. Participants casually referred to the project they were brainstorming as the Dogon Initiative, or, sometimes more colloquially as the Dogon Job; the gum-chewer simply referred to it as the Dog Job, and that vulgarism was starting to catch on amongst her colleagues. Their use of everyday slang and obvious preference for casual dress seemed apt given there was nothing remotely formal or regular about this group of agents.

An outsider looking in might consider they were ad agency workers or software nerds perhaps, but first impressions can be deceiving. They were the CIA’s hotshots, recognized by management as seven of the agency’s most intelligent and unique thinkers. And despite appearances and despite their relative youthfulness, all but the three youngest had operational experience in the field.

Collectively, they made up the total staff of the grandiose-sounding but suitably vague The New Paradigms Team, which officially came under the umbrella of the agency’s Directorate of Science and Technology, but in reality was its own directorate.

It was no coincidence their roomy, well appointed, basement office was off limits to all but a few senior officials whose number included the agency’s director and deputy director. The hotshots were at the cutting edge of something only a handful of others at Langley even knew about it. Something that represented a daring departure from tradition.

The beanbags the think tank members occupied were roughly aligned in a circle on the plush, carpeted floor. In the middle of the circle was a three-foot tall replica of Egypt’s Great Pyramid of Giza, and it was that which currently commanded the attention of all.

On loan from one of the Smithsonian Museums in Washington, DC, the realistic, scale model was a spectacular reminder of how magnificent the original pyramid must have looked many thousands of years earlier. Sunlight streaming through ground floor-level windows strategically located just below ceiling level along the full length of one wall reflected off the replica’s gleaming, limestone-colored exterior and off the golden capstone at its very top, making it sparkle. The dazzling effect was such the replica might have been constructed of gold, silver, diamonds and other precious stones.

The model pyramid had special significance for the seven agents seated around it. They’d been tasked with masterminding a bold, new, long-term program within the agency. A program that the Dogon Initiative would be but one part of – albeit an important part.

The so-called Dog Job would herald the commencement of the new approach by American intelligence that the agency’s Cape Town asset, Lotte, had alluded to when pitching to Dean Hawkins in Nigeria the previous day. A more ethical approach that wouldn’t result in the usual blowback the CIA infamously attracted from its enemies around the world and from media watchdogs at home and abroad.

The office door opened and in walked Senior Agent Fred Daley. The suave, fifty-five-year-old closed both eyes as he was momentarily blinded by the brilliant sunlight reflecting off the replica pyramid’s golden capstone.

“For Christ’s sake, kids!” he grumbled, squinting at the assembled through one half-open eye.

One or two of Daley’s junior colleagues had trouble suppressing a smile as the twenty-seven-year agency veteran bypassed the last remaining vacant beanbag to plonk his tall, lanky frame down on the room’s only conventional office chair. It was an innocent action that somehow symbolized the differences between him and them.

Age and seating preferences weren’t the only differences. Daley’s tailored gray suit, starched white shirt, pale blue tie and expensive Italian shoes contrasted noticeably with the casual clothing and footwear favored by his subordinates.

The differences didn’t bother the others, and if they irked him he never let on.

Eying the young hotshots, Daley said, “Okay, I’ve heard back from the Budget Office’s Deputy Director. She insists she needs more details, hard details, if she’s to consider the twenty-five percent budget increase you want for this Mali mission.”

The hotshots collectively groaned.

“Goddamn it,” one of the baseball caps muttered.

“C’mon now,” Daley said as he looked around at the disappointed faces. “You gotta admit this is a speculative project you’ve chosen for a first-up assignment. There’s major risks involved using assets. Especially foreign assets –”

“Deniable assets,” one of the female agents reminded him.

The senior agent waved a dismissive hand. “Whatever… A speculative project using deniable assets who’ve never been contracted by the agency before… And on top of that, there’s a risk the ancient technology or whatever it is you’re hoping the Dogon have retained from the Earth’s ancient past may be nothing but Alex Jones-style conspiracy nonsense.”

Daley paused as if to invite objections. When there were none, he pulled out his smartphone, switched on its Video Recording mode and checked the screen to ensure all seven hotshots were in the camera’s frame.

“So sell it to me one more time,” he said as he began filming. “Convince me how the Dogon and their ancient history or technology can help America and I’ll try to get you the extra twenty-five percent.”

CHAPTER 4

Twenty-three year old Asian-American Tom Cheung, one of the baseball caps, and, at five foot four, the shortest by a country mile of all the assembled, leaned forward on his beanbag and stared directly at Daley over the top of the replica pyramid.

“Classified files both within the agency and other US and foreign intel agencies reveal a great deal of evidence,” Cheung said. “Not proof admittedly, but strong evidence that the Dogon’s advanced astronomical knowledge is very ancient and so predates the French astronomers who first visited them in Mali in 1893.” Cheung paused as he noisily adjusted his position on the beanbag.  “This essentially debunks the popular myth that the Dogon people had no astronomical knowledge to speak of before then… before 1893… and were simply regurgitating the French –”

“Well let’s focus on the lack of proof then,” Daley interrupted. “Why hold faith in Dogon science if we don’t have absolute proof?”

“Because their culture is worth saving regardless!” twenty-eight-year-old Kathy Einhorn, a Jewish woman, said passionately. The six-foot tall Yale graduate added, “Remember, the Dogon are facing the likelihood of cultural extinction in the near future.” She retrieved her smartphone from the pocket of the denim jacket she wore and accessed a specific app.

A large, colourful hologram suddenly appeared, like magic, in the air just above the pyramid.

No-one was surprised. American intelligence had been using holographic technology for decades now – almost as long as the US Military had.

Einhorn’s hologram depicted a map of Mali. She pressed digital icons on her phone’s screen to zoom in so that the holographic map focused on Mali’s central plateau region where the Dogon reside. The map seemed to shimmer in the sunlight.

Cheung closed the blinds and the hologram was immediately enhanced.

 “As we speak, the Dogon are being attacked by militant Muslims and other religious groups… right… there,” Einhorn said as red holographic arrows appeared above half a dozen villages highlighted on the map. “Our sources confirm some factions within the current Mali Government want the Dogon eradicated, too. These poor people are getting slammed from all sides for the very reasons we want to protect them… They hold ancient knowledge.” She looked directly at Daley. “Paradoxically, just as that knowledge is a threat to organized religions and established beliefs, it also could also be crucial to America’s future… and the world’s future, too.”

Still not convinced, Daley remained expressionless as he continued to video proceedings.

“You expect me to believe that any knowledge or wisdom to be found inside the heads of African desert nomads could somehow be crucial to our future?” he asked.

“Hell, yeah!” thirty-year-old transgendered (female to male) think tank member Bryce McNickle said, incensed. Pushing himself to his feet, he said, “We’re talkin’ free energy methodologies, interstellar engineering designs… Possibly even recovered ancient alien technologies” – the handsome transgender gestured to the replica pyramid before them – “not to mention how the pyramids were constructed… And our best scientists working on classified research projects claim all of those theories are quite possible. Thus the secrets the Dogon hold may help us in innumerable ways.”

“Well,” Daley responded, “what evidence do we have that they were aware of the Sirius thing before the French astronomers visited them?” He referred to a mystery that had long puzzled modern-day astronomers.

“A lot, actually,” Cheung said, reinserting himself into the discussion. “For example, many researchers believe the Dogon have work tools and implements whose shape is identical to Canis Major, or the Sirius Constellation. That includes Sirius B, the white dwarf star invisible to the naked eye.”

As Cheung spoke, Einhorn played with her smartphone. Above the replica pyramid in their midst, a new holographic image of a ceremonial Dogon hunting tool appeared with a map of the heavens superimposed behind it. Various points on the hunting tool aligned perfectly with the Sirius Constellation and even appeared to align with the white dwarf star Sirius B her colleague referred to.

 Cheung continued, “Sirius B wasn’t discovered by our civilization’s astronomers until 1862, yet this ceremonial Dogon tool depicting that very dwarf star and its orbit around Sirius A is estimated to have been crafted many hundreds of years before the Nineteenth Century. Furthermore, the Dogon have an ancient ceremony called Sigui that directly mirrors the orbit of Sirius B around Sirius A… and, get this, there are four hundred-year-old Dogon masks still being used in Sigui ceremonial rites. This means the Dogon were at least centuries ahead of Nineteenth Century astronomers.”

“Well, have we or any of our associates reached out to the Dogon themselves to get their opinions on all these mysteries?” Daley asked.

“Yep,” Cheung said. “The Dogon say their astronomical knowledge was passed down in oral tradition and goes back thousands of years.” Before his boss could interject, the young agent quickly added, “I know that doesn’t equate to proof the Dogon knew about a star that’s invisible to the naked eye, but their response to criticisms from academia complicates things as 1893 isn’t that long ago. For example…” He nodded to Einhorn who promptly tapped the screen of her smart phone.

A holographic video of an eldery Dogon man appeared above the pyramid.

Cheung continued, “Here’s a video of a Dogon elder over a hundred years old. One hundred and sixteen I believe he was when this video was filmed last year. Still alive last we heard, which makes him one of the oldest in Africa.” He glanced at his companions and several nodded, confirming the elder was still alive. “And so if you do the math, this man’s parents were born long before 1893. Yet he swears both his parents learnt the stories of Sirius B from their parents… Another piece of crucial evidence that predates the French astronomers’ arrival in Mali by many decades at least.”

“How would you explain that?” Daley asked, adopting a skeptical tone that didn’t necessarily reflect his personal feelings.

Cheung waited for one of his colleagues to answer. When none did, he said, “Well, as Bryce alluded” – he nodded to McNickle – “some would have it the Dogon received knowledge from visitors… Extraterrestrial visitors.”

Daley continued to play Devil’s Advocate.

“So you’re asking me to tell my superiors that ETs came from some distant galaxy, and the only people they decided to visit were a bunch of cliff-dwelling Africans in the middle of nowhere?”

“The Dogon are some of the oldest people around,” Latin American Ricky Santos said, entering the discussion. The thirty-three-year-old Stanford University law graduate continued, “So if the Ancient Aliens Theory is legit… and by the way I’m not necessarily saying any of us believe that ET hypothesis… Then potentially the Dogon might be one of the few peoples left on Earth who can remember the visitations… and recite it via their extensive oral tradition. But others around the planet allude to something very similar.” Santos looked at Daley who was still filming. “Shall I go on?”

The senior agent nodded.

Santos continued, “A good example of what I’m talking about is the Nazca Lines in Peru… They seem to be an attempt to communicate with sky gods. Likewise, Australia’s Aborigines have various sky beings in their oral traditions… So I think asking ‘Why only these people and nobody else?’ isn’t really relevant, especially concerning very ancient peoples like the Dogon. That’s just a hackneyed line mainstreamers use to try to debunk the possibility of such visitations.”

Daley was about to reply, when the youngest of the hotshots, twenty-one-year-old redhead Rachel Nider, the gum-chewer, and, as it happened, the owner of the highest IQ in the building, spoke up. “Many researchers also assume that detailed astronomical knowledge of distant stars invisible to the naked eye would necessitate ETs coming to our planet… Which is kinda a modern perspective and perhaps a by-product of a Hollywood-influenced culture… Like, who’s to say those who built the pyramids and performed other incredible feats of engineering weren’t capable of traveling to Sirius with advanced ancient physical technology created by humans on Earth? Or else something more obscure like exploring the universe using mental techniques… like remote viewing?”

Daley shook his head in frustration. “Can somebody just summarize this for me in a nutshell… and in English, please?”

All eyes turn to anthropologist Mary Catrell, who, at thirty-seven, was the oldest of the think tank members. Headhunted by the CIA only a year earlier, she’d already successfully completed two overseas field assignments, having been fast-tracked into active service by case managers who had quickly identified her unique abilities.

“There are undeniable connections between scientific and cosmological knowledge encoded in the myths of many cultures,” Catrell said. “These cosmo myths spread from Gobekli Tepe to pre-dynastic Egypt and the Shakti cult of India, and then from India into Egypt again in dynastic times and eventually around the world. The Dogon are preserving a lot of myths from Egypt as well as from other sources such as early Buddhism.”

Einhorn interjected, saying, “A good example being the Maori of New Zealand who have the same myths and use much of the same terminology.”

“Exactly,” Catrell agreed. “The Dogon myths and traditions have some authenticity because of parallels in Egypt that involve the same words for the same concepts. We can see this for ourselves in the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics painted on the walls of caves in the Dogon’s homeland. As for their ancient knowledge of Sirius B, I agree with Rachel and don’t necessarily think beings came to Earth from there… or from any other planet. After all, the Dogon’s astronomical knowledge is part of a treasure trove of scientific knowledge encoded in myths.”

“A treasure trove of scientific knowledge encoded in myths?” Daley responded, and not without a trace of sarcasm.

Several think tank members shared knowing looks. Their superior liked to pretend he was a hard-ass, but they knew he was a bit of a softy beneath his gruff exterior. Except when he needed to be a hard-ass.

Undeterred, Catrell continued, “The more I look into it, the more convinced I am there was a human civilization that was advanced in engineering and science, but was largely wiped out by the onset of the near-glacial period we call the Younger Dryas, and nearly finished off by the end of that post-Ice Age period about eleven thousand five hundred years ago. Scientists believe a large solar outburst was responsible for the end of the Younger Dryas, remember. Such an event would devastate any advanced technological civilization, be it ancient or modern.”

“Mary’s right,” the other baseball cap said. Twenty-seven-year-old African-American Milton Rucker, who, to the amusement of the others wore his cap back to front, added, “After all, even a smaller climatic event on that scale would probably wipe out our civilization.”

The diminutive Cheung, who sat next to the six foot six inch tall Rucker, leaned over to his taller, older colleague and murmured, “We were wondering when you were gonna wake up.”

Rucker grinned and whispered a rude response only Cheung could hear.

Senior Agent Daley meanwhile continued filming as his young, high-flying, high-IQ colleagues kept bombarding him with information.

 

You have been reading an excerpt from The Dogon Initiative. For more about this new action-thriller visit Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42094424-the-dogon-initiative

 

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, OCT. 3, 2018: Publisher Sterling Gate Books is pleased to announce the international release of the next book by the writers of The Orphan Trilogy, White Spirit and Into the Americas is scheduled for October 31.

 

The Dogon Initiative cover

 Lance & James Morcan’s first book in The Deniables Series, their new action-thriller series.

 

In THE DOGON INITIATIVE, American Intelligence recruits a team of foreign mercenaries. They are considered ‘deniable assets’ and go by the unlikely but somewhat prophetic name the Deniables. Their first mission is to repatriate one Moussa Diarra, an African exile, from New York back to his Dogon homeland in Mali, West Africa. The inspirational Moussa’s lifelong ambition is to save his Dogon people from extinction. Unfortunately, there are militant ethnic factions in Mali intent on preventing his return and exterminating his people. His fate is in the hands of the Deniables who, between them, have hard-earned skills honed in some of the world’s bloodiest conflicts. They need to call on all those skills if they are to complete the mission.

 

Here’s an advance viewing of THE DOGON INITIATIVE  on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42094424-the-dogon-initiative

Read about the remarkable Dogon people at: Wikipedia https://lnkd.in/gQSnPeX

To learn more about Mali’s forgotten Dogon people go to: https://lnkd.in/gXkxpdS   “Mali’s ancient Dogon people are faced with cultural extinction as a result of the recent turmoil in their country.”

Still more! The Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B: https://lnkd.in/gtfF2Eu

 

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To this day many believe J.D. Salinger’s bestselling novel The Catcher in the Rye  was part of the CIA’s extensive mind control program known as MK-Ultra, and that while assassins, or future assassins, were being brainwashed they were forced to read the book over and over until it was embedded in their minds.

 

The Catcher in the Rye

 

In The Catcher in the Rye Enigma, Book 4 of our Underground Knowledge Series, we examine the allegation that Salinger implanted mind control triggers into his novel  – triggers that enabled CIA handlers to activate Manchurian Candidates for planned assassinations.

The very idea that assassination codes are buried deep in Salinger’s book is one of the oldest conspiracy theories around. However, given what we’ve unearthed in our research for this book and indeed the entirety of The Underground Knowledge Series, we believe some of the theories swirling about Salinger’s classic deserve another look.

The Catcher in the Rye Enigma  paperback and Kindle ebook are available via Amazon: https://lnkd.in/enuW97W

 

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Sterling Gate Books’ latest Kindle freebie is The Catcher in the Rye Enigma: J.D. Salinger’s Mind Control Triggering Device or a Coincidental Literary Obsession of Criminals?  by James and Lance Morcan. Book #4 in The Underground Knowledge Series, it’s free to Amazon customers November 23–24PST.

 

The Catcher in the Rye Enigma: J.D. Salinger's Mind Control Triggering Device or a Coincidental Literary Obsession of Criminals? (The Underground Knowledge Series Book 4)

It examines Salinger’s Catcher.

 

The Catcher in the Rye Enigma  unearths the mysteries surrounding the 1951 novel The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger – arguably the most controversial book of all time. Nicknamed the ‘Bible of teenage angst’, the classic novel, which is frequently labeled immoral by different groups, has been banned in various parts of America over the decades. However, the main controversy, and indeed the most common reason for it being banned, was that it either inspired or was associated with some of the most infamous crimes of the 20th Century. These crimes include the murder of John Lennon and the attempted assassination of President Reagan.

Just as this book’s subtitle suggests, the reader is left to decide whether J.D. Salinger’s novel is a “Mind Control Triggering Device” or simply a “Coincidental Literary Obsession of Criminals.”

 

To order your free Kindle copy go to: http://www.amazon.com/Catcher-Rye-Enigma-Coincidental-Underground-ebook/dp/B00YVROKZ4/

 

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Do you believe the deaths at Jonestown were the result of suicides as per the official story or mass murder? That’s the question we put to members of the Underground Knowledge discussion group in our latest (continuing) poll on Goodreads.com

 

Bodies at Jonestown…mass murder or suicide?

 

Jonestown, of course, is the name synonymous with the mass deaths of the infamous (mainly American) Peoples Temple cult members in the jungles of Guyana. Since that dreadful event, in November, 1978, there has been considerable speculation on whether the deaths were suicide, as per the official story, or mass murder.

If ‘Undergrounders’ (group members) are correct, most believe it was mass murder. One compelling argument proffered to support this view is that many of the dead were children – and, of course, children don’t normally commit suicide, do they?

Interim poll results are:

63% believe the deaths were mass murder.

22% believe they were suicides.

15% are unsure.

 

A random selection of poll respondents’ comments follows:

Mass murder, because children don’t “choose” suicide. Men with guns stood around until everyone had drunk the poisoned cool aide. Then they either drank it, or ran away. But those few men, who held the rifles were both murderers and the only few who actually committed suicide.   

No way this is a conspiracy. Jones and his followers killed a US Congressman, panicked and drank Kool-Aid. End of story.

I would say…Mass Murder – MK Ultra Mind Control

How do we know that they were shot except for verbal statements? 

The Guyanese army, whose soldiers were among the first on the scene, reported only 408 Temple members had died by their own hand. Then the New York Times reported the actual number was around 500. US Military personnel arrived several days later and the body count quickly rose – from 700 to a final tally of 909. No official explanation was ever given for these differing body counts although one US official was quoted as saying, “Guyanese cannot count.”

 …it’s madness! So much death and many things that don’t make sense. It’s either religious fanatics/cult or a corrupt government to blame and we know which explanation we’d rather go with. I vote unsure on this.  

This is a hard one to decide on there are so many sides to what the truth is and everyone has a different story to tell.   

Neil Sanders does a pretty good job at listing all the anomalies in the official story, as well as all the CIA involvement in the cult before the deaths, in this video here: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9605…

 

To see all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Also, check out our Jonestown discussion thread here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group…     

Poll ends January 10.

 

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Two thirds of respondents in our latest Underground Knowledge group poll in Goodreads.com believe whistleblowers Edward Snowden, Julian Assange & Bradley Manning are heroes, not traitors.

Whistleblowers Manning, Assange and Snowden…heroes or traitors?

In response to the question What is your opinion of whistleblowers like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange & Bradley Manning who leak classified intelligence information to the public concerning their own government’s criminal activities? 67% say they’re heroes; only 7% believe they’re traitors; some 21% say they’re a mixture of heroes and traitors; and 5% are undecided. (Interim results).

A random sample of poll respondents’ comments follows:

Speak of the devil, Edward Snowden joined Twitter today: https://twitter.com/Snowden or @Snowden In less that 24 hrs he had 1,000,000 followers. While Snowden himself only follows 1 Twitter account: the NSA!

Count me as one of those followers (of @Snowden). I told him I think he is a hero. Now to wait for the armed, jackbooted whom ever to kick in my door and take me away.

Snowden’s latest tweet was pretty funny: “Meanwhile, a thousand people at Fort Meade just opened Twitter.” So he’s implying 1,000 NSA employees immediately joined twitter simply to monitor his tweets. Ha!

These guys did not go to the Inspector General, they dumped everything into the public sector, and one ran straight to the most dangerous enemy civilization still has: Putin. If Snowden had pumped & dumped and stayed in Waikiki, or flown directly to LA or NYC then it would have been poorly executed whistleblowing. By taking the trash directly to enemies of the State, and frankly enemies to civilization itself, they became traitors. Plain and simple.

… the real TRAITORS to the US Govt, the Cheney’s, Bush, and yes Obama, Rumsfeld, Clinton, McCain and others!!

“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give to an American.” ―Edward Snowden

On every level of government, the People are responsible for keeping all laws Constitutional and for removing from office officials who commit acts against the law or the Constitution. We are each responsible and should give hero’s welcome to all whistle blowers.

Snowden should still be shot for treason. Cheney should have something worse done to him: siezure of all his assets and those of his cronies under the Haliburton umbrella corporation for restitution to their victims worldwide. …And then prison for the rest of his miserable life.

How Snowden and Manning chose to act was poorly at best, and completely against the good of this nation or the security of our citizens. Like the fact that they ‘raged against the machine’? Great, but the choices they made were clearly wrong, and their stated goals do not match the actions taken; traitorous.

Fixating on minor misdemeanours of “whistleblowers-traitors” against a traitorous intelligence industry is like criticizing the jail warden who pulls the switch that kills mass murderers on death row.

Key reason the mass public is by and large getting behind the likes of Snowden, Manning and Assange is that the public don’t give a flying f^#% about the military’s rules and regulations, because they know the Military Industrial Complex doesn’t give a flying f$^# about the public anymore.

To see all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

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As membership of our fledgling ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group on the popular literary site Goodreads.com  approaches 1200 – in fact it may have hit that milestone by the time you read this – one discussion thread is currently running hot. It’s simply titled: What is terrorism and who gets to define the term?

The discussion thread began with the following post from a member:

As a western woman, the definition of terrorism is something that fascinates me. I want to know if there is any valid, objective definition of terrorism.

I find it interesting that in media the choice of words is very selective. When someone here in (the) West barges into school and kills hundreds of innocent children, the news often comes out as ‘gunman massacred children at primary school’. I guess most would agree that this is a terrorist act but it is never labeled as an act of terrorism. So does it mean, an individual’s action cannot be deemed as such and for it to qualify the action must be carried out by an organised group?

Hate group is another (term) which I find very confusing. Are hate groups, terrorist groups too? KKK is often labeled as a hate group but in fact their actions were the same as any terrorist group.

If you have to ask someone to name a few terrorist groups you would like get ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda and Taliban as the answer. Most people wouldn’t even think of our North American grown KKK as a bunch of terrorists. Does it mean that for terrorism to qualify, a group has to be an alien agency threatening western democracies?

With the likes of Al Qaeda and more recently ISIS dominating world headlines, it’s not surprising our members (Undergrounders) are vocal on the subject. At least two and possibly more of our members are former intelligence agents. (In one case, the gentleman concerned is a Britt who worked for British intelligence and, on occasion, for the CIA). They have contributed to this discussion thread.

Member’s selected/abridged comments (abridged) follow:

When suicide bombers go in to a military congregation and blow up soldiers AND inadvertently kill nearby civilians, this is called “terrorism”. However, when the West uses drone strikes where terrorists have been reported to be, and inadvertently wipe out an entire hospital or school or village, this is called “collateral damage” or a “an unfortunate accident for which the White House sincerely apologizes for”.

Most ‘terrorist’ attacks are usually organised by the government or agencies as an excuse to change laws or go to war.

The lines blur with terms like terrorists and it often depends who is telling the story as to who the terrorists are… I would say the superpower nations are the biggest terrorists, especially if you do a body count of all their carnage around the planet in the last few decades.

When everything is leaked and Wikileaked, I do wonder who the history books will eventually record as being the biggest terrorists of the 21st Century.

Let’s make no mistake, the spoils of The War on Terror are most likely the biggest spoils of any war in history…

There is an old saying, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”…In 1946, the Jewish Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing some 90 people. That was one of dozens of similar Irgun attacks. One of the Irgun leaders, Menachem Begin later became prime minister of Israel… It seems terrorism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Given that over 1,000,000 Muslims (and counting) have died at the hands of Western aggression in the West’s stated attempt to reduce terrorism, I wonder what the history books of the future will call the War on Terror?

So we can all agree Islamic terrorism is very real. Denying its existence would be foolish, not to mention ignoring the fact that the moderate sectors of the Muslim world (who despite what Western media implies, is the VAST majority of Islamic population) are constantly mentioning their desire for terrorism to end (albeit without more phony wars). So to be clear, I stand for peace and the betterment of all peoples whatever nationality or race. But in saying all that, assessing whether terrorism is the big global threat to civilization is really a case of the devil being in the detail…The fine print is where many of the arguments that pass for fact in our shoddy 21st Century media (e.g. terrorists are everywhere, there’s not enough wealth in the world, Third World countries have limited resources etc, etc) often do not stack up under close inspection.

To read all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2122895-what-is-terrorism-and-who-gets-to-define-the-term?page=1 

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