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Membership of our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  has topped 1,500 surely making it one of the fastest-growing active groups on the extraordinarily popular international readers and authors book site.

 

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Designed to encourage debates about important and underreported issues of our era, the Underground Knowledge group has fostered discussion and debate on a host of topics — some of them taboo, many of them contentious and all of them interesting.

 

Links to a random selection of the group’s discussion threads follow: 

The Queen’s invisible riches

Mysterious Deaths

The price of a free media

Medical Industrial Complex

False flag operations

International banksters

Secret methods to increase IQ

The Fourth Reich

Mind control

UFOs / ETs / Area 51 / Roswell

Puppet masters & secret oaths

Fringe science

Bankrupting the Third World

Underground bases

Yamashita’s Gold (WW2 cover-up)

Secret prisons

Drug wars

The Catcher in the Rye enigma

 

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Popular videos include Unlawful Killing — Banned Documentary on Princess Diana’s Death (FULL) and A concerned American citizen and mom fights for the rights of her fellow citizens

 

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Following on from the success of our historical adventure novels Into the Americas, World Odyssey and Fiji, we announce the scheduled April launch of our latest historical adventure WHITE SPIRIT (A novel based on a true story).

 

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White Spirit  is an epic historical adventure novel based on the gritty, true story of Irish convict John Graham. After escaping from Moreton Bay Penal Settlement, in Australia, Graham finds refuge with the Kabi, a tribe of Aborigines who accept him as one of their own.

Set in the early 1800’s, White Spirit  also gives readers an in depth look at the tribal life of First Australian (Aboriginal) peoples.

 

For more information about this this book see our Goodreads  page at: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28681110-white-spirit

 

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Lest we forget…This poignant flashback to 1865 is worth a look…

In August of 1865, Colonel P.H. Anderson of Big Spring, Tennessee, wrote to his former slave, Jourdon Anderson, and requested that he come back to work on his farm. Jourdon, who since being freed by the emancipation proclamation, had moved to Ohio, found paid work, and was now supporting his family. This was his response:

Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin’s to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, “Them colored people were slaves” down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor’s visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams’s Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

In answering this letter, please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up, and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with poor Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve—and die, if it come to that—than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood. The great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

From your old servant,

Jourdon Anderson.

Read more at http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/551/You-Have-To-Read-This-Letter-From-A-Former-Slave-To-His-Old-Master#koyLwUAMQr9qE8fZ.99

 

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The Catcher in the Rye Enigma: J.D. Salinger's Mind Control Triggering Device or a Coincidental Literary Obsession of Criminals? (The Underground Knowledge Series Book 4)

In our book The Catcher in the Rye Enigma, we observe that J.D. Salinger’s bestselling novel The Catcher in the Rye is now ‘required reading’ in most high school English courses in the US and throughout much of the Western world. This despite the fact it has been banned by various schools and libraries, and criticized by numerous parent and teacher groups as being immoral literature due to its use of profanity and themes of excessive rebellion and alienation.

The Catcher in the Rye

Salinger’s classic novel.

We explore this in the following excerpt from (our book) The Catcher in the Rye Enigma:

The fact that The Catcher in the Rye  is now required reading has inspired some conspiracy theorists – most probably of the Tinfoil Hat variety – to envisage a grand conspiracy in which mind control is being conducted on a mass scale in order to corrupt, pacify or otherwise control today’s youth.

Reclusive Guns N’ Roses lead singer Axl Rose took part in an online chat on December 12, 2008 on the GNR fan community site. When a fan asked him about a song he’d written called Catcher N’ The Rye  on GNR’s new album Chinese Democracy, Axl’s responses seem to indicate he believed the theory that the novel can incite violent acts when read by certain individuals.

“For me,” he said, “the song is inspired by what’s referred to sometimes as Holden Caulfield Syndrome …I feel there’s a possibility that how the writing is structured with the thinking of the main character could somehow re-program, for lack of a better word, some who may be a bit more vulnerable, with a skewed way of thinking.”

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Axl Rose…believed novel can incite violence.

Axl also mentioned he felt that the novel is “utter garbage” and said he agrees “wholeheartedly that it should be discontinued as required reading in schools”.

 

THE CATCHER IN THE RYE ENIGMA: J.D. Salinger’s Mind Control Triggering Device or a Coincidental Literary Obsession of Criminals?  is exclusive to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Catcher-Rye-Enigma-Coincidental-Underground-ebook/dp/B00YVROKZ4/

 

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In our true-life adventure novel Into the Americas, we relate how young Englishman John Jewitt and his fellow hostage Jonathan Thompson accompany their Mowachaht captors on a raid into the territory of the fierce Haachaht tribe of the Northwest Pacific.

Nootka Sound…Home to the proud Mowachaht tribe of Vancouver Island.

In the following excerpt from our novel, the Mowachaht raiders are ambushed by the Haachahts as they paddle up a river:

Callicum, the Haachaht chief, and three hundred of his warriors waited in ambush in the trees on the far bank. Most wore the distinctive and frightening wolf’s brow-mask, and all carried bows, spears, tomahawks and other traditional weapons. There wasn’t a musket in sight. However, what they lacked in fire-power they made up for in manpower and ingenuity.

On the near bank, directly opposite Callicum and his men, another hundred Haachahts waited. They, too, wore brow-masks and were similarly armed. Within their ranks, two strong, well-built bowmen stood some twenty yards apart. Each held a bow almost as long as himself. Their arrows resembled slim spears and were close to six foot long. A line trailed from each of their shafts. The lines were tied to the front edge of a huge, reinforced fishing net, which lay spread out on the ground between the two bowmen.

Both groups of Haachahts were visible to each other, but the dense undergrowth and foliage still hid them from the raiders even though their canoes were almost level with them.

At a signal from Callicum, the two bowmen opposite lay down on their backs, their knees bent and their moccasined feet raised skyward. After positioning their feet against the inside of their bows, they each loaded a long arrow and prepared to loose it toward the opposite bank. Even though they each used both hands to draw the mighty bows, the tremendous effort required caused their muscular arms to tremble. Their eyes were focused on a headman who stood midway between them and whose eyes, in turn, were focused on Callicum on the opposite bank.

The Haachaht chief now had his tomahawk raised high above his head. As the lead canoe drew level with his position, Callicum brought his tomahawk down.

At a nod from the headman opposite, the two bowmen gratefully released their long arrows in synch. Nearby, two more bowmen prepared to send a second net toward their enemies.

In the lead canoe, John and his fellow paddlers looked up as the huge net sailed above them, trailing behind the two spear-like arrows. The arrows buried themselves in the ground on the opposite bank and the net slowly floated down. It narrowly missed the lead canoe, settling over the one following and entangling its occupants.

Terrifying Haachaht war cries shattered the silence, and arrows and spears rained down on the Mowachahts. Most of those entangled in the net were quickly struck down as they struggled to disentangle themselves. Several scrambled overboard and tried to swim downstream, but they were quickly picked off by well-placed arrows. The canoe’s captain, Quasoot, was among the casualties.

The Mowachahts’ first thought was to use their muskets to fight off their enemies. They instinctively discarded their paddles and frantically began priming their muskets. As a result, the canoes bumped into each other and began drifting aimlessly in the current, their surprised occupants sitting targets.

Callicum had anticipated this and urged his bowmen to pick the disorganized Mowachahts off before they could wreak havoc with their muskets.

Maquina saw the danger immediately and exhorted his warriors to forget about their muskets for the moment and to paddle to the left bank where Callicum and his warriors happened to be. They responded straight away, retrieving their paddles and paddling furiously.

At the same time, another net sailed over the river and settled on a second canoe – this one captained by Toowin. Fortunately for Toowin and his fellow paddlers, one of the two arrows used had been misdirected, and so the net didn’t completely envelope the craft. Even so, the disruption it caused resulted in at least half the canoe’s occupants being killed or wounded. Toowin himself suffered a flesh wound when an arrow creased his chest.

As the remaining canoes closed with the far bank, they were met by a hailstorm of spears and arrows. Callicum’s warriors were trying to finish their enemies off before they could reach the shore. Mowachaht casualties mounted. Some of those who had been killed floated off downstream with arrows, and in one case a spear, protruding from them. Blood stained the water around them.

For one long moment, Maquina’s eyes locked with Callicum’s. The Mowachaht chief stood upright in the prow of his canoe. Ignoring the arrows that flew around him, he cursed his opposite. “Callicum, you treacherous dog!” he shouted. “I will personally cut out your heart!”

Callicum shouted something unintelligible back at his opposite.

Maquina was first to disembark. With no apparent concern for his own safety, he ran directly at Callicum, musket in one hand and club in the other. He used the latter weapon to effortlessly swat aside two Haachahts who made the mistake of not getting out of his way.

John and Thompson were among the next to disembark. As they scrambled up the bank, they fired their muskets at near point-blank range at the nearest Haachahts. Their hands were a blur as they primed their muskets and fired again. Identifying their enemy was made easy by the wolf brow-masks most of the Haachahts wore.

In anticipation of close-quarter fighting, Maquina had wisely ordered his fellow raiders to use shot, or pellets, as opposed to musket balls. John and Thompson were thankful for that as they loosed shot after shot at their enemies: each shot felled two or more Haachahts, so tightly were they congregated and so effective were the deadly pellets directed their way.

The whites were quickly joined by their fellow raiders who brought their own muskets into play. More Haachahts were struck down.

Chaos reigned. War cries, musket shots, curses, agonized screams, shouted orders and insults mingled in one deafening cacophony of sound; smoke from the constant discharge of muskets hung in the air, its acrid smell instantly recognizable; spears, arrows, tomahawks, axes and knives flew through the air as warriors grappled with their enemies in the woods, along the riverbank and even in the river; and all the while bodies piled up along the bank and in the shallows, and still more floated downriver.

You have been reading an excerpt from INTO THE AMERICAS (A novel based on a true story). The book is available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Into-Americas-novel-based-story-ebook/dp/B00YJKM51E/

Into the Americas (A novel based on a true story)

 

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INTO THE AMERICAS (A novel based on a true story), the latest novel penned by New Zealand father-and-son writing team Lance and James Morcan, has entered Amazon’s bestseller lists, climbing into the top 10 Kindle ebooks in the crowded Action and Adventure category.

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Readers resonate with this top 10 book.

A gritty, real-life adventure based on one of history’s greatest survival stories, Into the Americas  was inspired by the diary entries of young English blacksmith John Jewitt during his time aboard the brigantine The Boston and also during his sojourn at Nootka Sound, on North America’s western seaboard, from 1802 to 1805.

It’s a tale of two vastly different cultures – Indigenous North American and European civilization – colliding head on. It is also a Romeo and Juliet story set in the wilderness.

To see what reviewers are saying about this top rating book go to: http://www.amazon.com/Into-Americas-novel-based-story-ebook/dp/B00YJKM51E/

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In the following excerpt from our new adventure novel Into the Americas, we describe trading between the Mowachaht tribe and unscrupulous white traders in Nootka Sound, on Vancouver Island, in the early 1800’s.

Into the Americas (A novel based on a true story)

In the skies above North America’s west coast, amongst the clouds, a bald eagle glided in lazy circles. With her magnificent white head and tail feathers, and her six-foot wingspan, she was the queen of her domain as she made use of the thermals that rose from the unseen terrain below.

The clouds parted to reveal a village – one of many populated by the indigenous people of the remote Northwest Pacific region. Nootka village was bordered by rugged, forest-covered hills which rose up out of the sea. Comprised of twenty or so large, wooden lodges, it was home to the Mowachaht tribe, one of the twenty-five Nuu-chah-nulth indigenous groups that occupied the region’s craggy coastline. A two-masted schooner lay at anchor offshore, safe for the moment in an inlet with the unlikely name of Friendly Cove.

Distance was no problem for the eagle whose sharp eyesight could distinguish any object from another, even if those objects were little bigger than a pinhead. Right now, her eyes were focused on a Chinook salmon swimming between the schooner and shore. The eagle flattened her wings and dove head first, extending her wings moments before she struck the water. Talons extended and now in a shallow dive, the eagle grasped the salmon and, with a few mighty beats of her wings, rose sluggishly skyward with her catch.

The eagle’s labored flight took her directly over the village. If any of the villagers had been waiting for her, with bow or musket primed, they’d have shot her down easily for she was as yet barely higher than the colorful totem poles that lined the shore. Fortunately for her, eagles were sacred to these people and so they ruled the skies with impunity.

A trade was going down with a dozen crewmen from the schooner. Unkempt and ill disciplined, the crewmen were typical of the freebooters who visited these shores in increasing numbers. They carried with them an assortment of weapons and were clearly no strangers to violence.

Armed Mowachaht warriors, ever-mindful of bad experiences they’d had with other European traders, kept a wary eye on the visitors. Most were armed with muskets, some carried blunderbusses and a few bore traditional weapons, including clubs, spears and tomahawks.

The traders had come to exchange muskets for sea-otter pelts. Much sought-after, the beautiful pelts fetched a princely sum in the civilized world – especially in London and in Macau, China. Consequently, Nootka village and the sound named after it was an increasingly popular port of call for traders intent on filling their ships’ holds with the bounty of the New World.

Most of Nootka’s fifteen hundred residents were present to observe the trade, which was being conducted on a sandy beach in front of the village. Trading, especially with visiting Europeans, was a highlight of their short, hard lives. More so after the long winter months – as was the case on this pleasant spring day.

Among the Mowachahts, the common or untitled people wore sealskin and coarse cedar bark clothing, which afforded protection from the constant rain in these parts. The chiefs and men and women of high ranking wore animal skins and colorful capes or, in rare cases, the pelt of the sea-otter.

Headmen invariably wore the striking black sea otter pelt. It extended to the knees and was fastened around the waist by a wide band of colorful, woven cedar bark. The warriors wore square-cut, yellow mantles with holes cut for the arms – similar to those worn by the commoners except theirs were dyed red and were more basic.

Absent from the trading activities were the Mowachahts’ slaves. Acquired in raids on neighboring tribes, the slaves were readily identifiable as such as they collected firewood and performed other menial tasks in and around the village. Though they spoke the same Wakashan language as their Mowachaht masters, their appearance was quite different: each bore the physical characteristics of his or her tribe. Some were lighter skinned, others darker; some were tall and slender, others short and stocky; some male slaves were bald or wore their hair short, others wore their hair in long ringlets; most wore raggedy sealskin clothing while some were near-naked. Their number included almost as many females as males – the former more often than not serving as sex slaves as well as manual workers.

Above the beach, the Mowachahts’ lodges extended to the tree line. They were a sprawling collection of wooden dwellings, the remnants of a Spanish trading outpost vacated some years earlier. Smoke from cooking fires curled up into the sky from strategically placed openings in the lodges’ roofs.

The totem poles – some even taller than the surrounding fir trees – towered over the lodges.

On the beach, there was an air of tension as the schooner’s master, Captain Alvin Walsh, an abrasive New Yorker with a well deserved reputation for dishonest trades, bargained with a group of headmen. Foremost among the latter was Maquina, chief of the Mowachahts. Tall, bronze and muscular, the middle-aged Maquina cut an impressive figure in his ceremonial cloak. Feathers protruded from his long, black hair, which he wore as a bun on top of his head. Like all the headmen, white down covered his head and shoulders, conveying the impression of falling snow.

Captain Walsh’s steely gaze was fixed on the bundles of pelts that lay at his feet while Maquina’s hawk-like eyes were fixed on a dozen new muskets stacked end-to-end in an open casket. The casket lay on top of five identical unopened caskets.

Hard-nosed bartering had begun soon after the traders had stepped ashore earlier in the day and, to both parties, it seemed a successful trade was no closer. Tempers were becoming frayed.

Maquina pointed at the caskets and, in broken English, said, “Maquina say…five pelts…one musket.”

Walsh shook his head. “One musket…ten pelts.” He appeared ready to depart, a shrewd strategy he’d fine-tuned years earlier when trading watered-down whisky to the East Coast tribes.

The chief quickly nodded to his opposite, indicating they had a deal. Walsh gestured to his men who immediately began scooping up bundles of pelts.

Maquina intervened. “Try musket first,” he said.

Walsh cursed under his breath as he motioned to his men to hold off for the moment. He then selected a musket from the open casket and handed it to Maquina. The shrewd chief ignored the offering and selected another musket. He expertly primed it and fired it into the air. The shot echoed throughout Nootka Sound. Still suspicious, Maquina broke open another casket. He tested a second musket with the same result. Satisfied, he made the faintest of hand gestures to his warriors who immediately uplifted the caskets and carried them away.

A relieved Walsh motioned to his men to resume gathering up the pelts. Under Maquina’s penetrating gaze, the captain appeared tense and he exhorted his men to hurry.

There was good reason for Maquina’s suspicion. The Mowachahts – like all members of the wider Nuu-chah-nulth community – had been short-changed, and worse, by European traders. As the number of visiting trading vessels increased, so too had the number of unsavory incidents. The indiscriminate shooting of villagers by drunk or disgruntled traders was becoming almost commonplace and the rape and mistreatment of women even more so.

And so it was with some malevolence that Maquina and his people observed these latest traders as they ferried their trade items back to the waiting ship.

You have been reading an excerpt from INTO THE AMERICAS (A novel based on a true story). To read more go to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Into-Americas-novel-based-story-ebook/dp/B00YJKM51E/

Into the Americas (A novel based on a true story)

 

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Membership of our lively ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group on Goodreads.com  has now topped 800, making it one of the fastest growing groups on the extraordinarily popular (Amazon-owned) literary site.

Goodreads: Book reviews, recommendations, and discussion

Our Underground Knowledge group is also one of the most active on Goodreads. Little wonder given many of the contentious topics under discussion…

A random sample of the group’s discussion threads follow. (Click on any links that appeal to view members’ comments):

Restructuring capitalism

The Queen’s position in modern Britain

Big Pharma & the Medical Mafia

Can we trust news media outlets?

The truth about international aid

November 22, 1963. Dallas, Texas.

Hurricane Katrina and African-American communities

The overpopulation myth (part 1)

Do 300 People Rule The World?

The multi-trillion dollar WW2 cover-up

(Profiting from) The War on Drugs

The Catcher mystery continues

Is the Islamic State (IS/ISIS) another invention of the West?

Finding (hiding) a cure for cancer

Earlier historical versions of Jesus Christ?

Are aliens visiting Earth or not????

Was 9/11 a false flag attack and ‘Inside Job’? 62% of you voted YES

Global Warming – is it real?

The US Military’s proposal to kill Americans

Banned books of the Bible

The political apathy of today’s youth

The Big Bang Theory – Debunked?

Obama, Murdoch & the Bush/Clinton clans

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Our Underground Knowledge discussion group is aimed at those with an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times.

Everyone’s welcome to join! All you need is an enquiring mind. Our members include scientists, social activists, teachers, historians, authors, military and intelligence agency personnel, bankers, housewives, whistleblowers, students, former police officers, one or two rednecks (we are trying to weed them out), doctors, a couple of busybodies (they’re okay), journalists, readers and many more.

Visit the group at: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

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We put it to the members of our ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group on Goodreads.com whether there’s evidence for the existence of scientifically advanced ancient civilizations in our past, and the feedback received shows that many of our members believe there’s evidence aplenty.

The Aroi Sun Kingdom of the Pacific- oldest ancient civilization in the world 

A random selection of members’ comments (names withheld) follows – the first four being from historians:

Perhaps if we dig deep for ancient civilizations other than those of which we are aware, we just might learn some things, some ways of life, that we seriously need to learn to evolve as better beings and less destructive beings.

 

Check out B E Dennis’ Crystal Skull Trilogy…a very interesting read. And a kind of related thought for those who are interested in past life regression: what might those uncover? If we are going to go exploring for truths we might consider every possible path to them. It would be interesting to see which of the “powers” individually and collectively, would object strenuously to such expeditions.

 

Wow, an interesting dialogue. As a college history major, I agree that there are agendas and mistakes. However, as you begin to move forward in a career in history, you have to be aware of the realities of the job. You can be brilliant, but if you are starving, you end up conforming.

 

For this discussion I would recommend Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients. I am not familiar with this one but it might be of interest as well: The Anti-Gravity Handbook.

 

I think the best evidence for a scientifically advanced civilization is in Egypt. The precision machining of granite for sarcophagi, statues, etc. is perhaps better than we can do right now. Some people argue that we don’t have the technology to build the Giza pyramids or that it would at least take billions of dollars to achieve. I think there are some simpler explanations for many out-of-place artifacts, especially those found in rock that is apparently very old.

 

In several hindu scripts some surprising thing are found. the origin of universe as described in Rig veda is very much similar to the big bang theory! in epics like mahabharat we can find accounts about nuclear wars. I have heard that the ground in which the war was fought is absolutely barren and not a single grass grows there.

 

In Purana we can see that many vedic saints used to travel in flying machines. The question is why the ancient people have written about humans flying with gods? Moreover many priests used to worship god in one place at morning and in other place many kms away at evening. How they used to do that?

 

In 1513, a map was drawn by Piri Reis on Gazelle skin. The map shows the western coast of Africa, eastern coast of South America and northern coast of Antarctica. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw an accurate map of Antarctic region 300years before it was discovered, but the map shows the coastline under ice. Latest day evidence confirms that Queen Maud land could have been in an ice free state is 4000BC. So the Piri Reis map shows the northern part of Antarctic before the ice did cover it. The question is was the map was drawn 6000 years ago? Then how did they do it as technology was not so good then.

 

In my opinion there are quite a few people in academia who have different ideas (in many subject areas), but are afraid to pursue them for fear of damaging their careers.

 

Look at how much resistance Robert Schoch got when he said the Sphinx had to be older because of the water weathering. Geologists who saw the evidence all agreed but Egyptologists had a hissy fit. Now we have Gobekli Tepe which shows that human civilizations were capable of complex projects at least 12,000 years ago. Also Gunung Padong and probably more sites will come to light.

 

Check out the various myths of the Lost Civlizations of the Ancients: https://www.goodreads.com/photo/group…

 

To read all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2097990-evidence-for-scientifically-advanced-ancient-civilizations

 

Other Underground Knowledge discussion threads related to fringe science that may be worth checking out include:

Out-there science

10 (Rumored) Lost Or Suppressed Inventions

Pole Shift

The Big Bang Theory – Debunked?

 

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Membership of our lively ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group on the popular Goodreads.com literary site has now topped 700 — little wonder given the controversial nature of many of the topics being discussed!

Goodreads: Book reviews, recommendations, and discussion

Some of the more contentious discussion threads follow. (Click on any links that appeal to view members’ comments):

Is the Islamic State (IS/ISIS) another invention of the West?

Finding (hiding) a cure for cancer

Earlier historical versions of Jesus Christ?

Are aliens visiting Earth or not????

Was 9/11 a false flag attack and ‘Inside Job’? 62% of you voted YES

Global Warming – is it real?

The US Military’s proposal to kill Americans

Banned books of the Bible

The political apathy of today’s youth

The Big Bang Theory – Debunked?

Obama, Murdoch & the Bush/Clinton clans

Restructuring capitalism

The Queen’s position in modern Britain

Big Pharma & the Medical Mafia

Can we trust news media outlets?

The truth about international aid

November 22, 1963. Dallas, Texas.

Hurricane Katrina and African-American communities

The overpopulation myth (part 1)

Do 300 People Rule The World?

The multi-trillion dollar WW2 cover-up

(Profiting from) The War on Drugs

The Catcher mystery continues

 

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Our ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group is aimed at those with an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times.

Everyone’s welcome to join! All you need is an enquiring mind. Our members include scientists, teachers, historians, authors, military and intelligence agency personnel, bankers, housewives, whistleblowers, students, former police officers and many more.

Visit the group at: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

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