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Goodreads.com group poll result supports the argument for universal health care

Posted: March 2, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Interim results of the latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  show that most respondents believe citizens should not  have to pay for health care. 

In response to the question Do you think universal (free) health care should be provided to all citizens?  more than three-quarters of respondents to date answered in the affirmative.

Interim results show that 77% say YES, only 15% say NO, and 8% are UNSURE.

Poll respondents’ comments make for interesting reading. Here’s some of those comments:

The big problem here is not the insurance or mass healthcare systems, rather, it is the drug companies making bank off of human fraility. I am certain we have all heard of seniors in the US making trips to Canadia and Mexico (often illegally) to buy their medications just over the border because they cannot afford them here in the US.

I voted no because who is going to pay for it? Right now i am paying out the ass for my i nsurance and those too lazy to work or illegals. (Truly disabled people not included in this rant).    

That is the real problem. That is the real cost of healthcare. Medications. Prescriptions. And for what? It wouldn’t be so bad if that money funneled back into research, but it doesn’t. It pads pockets too far up the line to even make a difference to the end-user. THAT is the biggest atrocity with healthcare, and why people over a certain age are considered “too old” to receive treatments. It boils down to a cost/benefit analysis.   

Is there any reason not to help save people’s lives?   

Education and health care should both be free. That is the only way to have an equal opportunity regardless of income. Unfortunately, it is like feeding 30 people from your one rice bowl. All 30 starve, because the math doesn’t add up.   

Even though I am disabled and have been for a number of years, and pay nothing (now) for my health insurance I voted No. Because someway, somehow, someone is going to pay for the treatment and the “free” healthcare.

There is MORE THAN ENOUGH resources and public wealth available to cover all citizens who cannot afford healthcare. Period. To believe otherwise would be Myth #1 in my book.

“Unless you’re a Warren Buffet or Bill Gates, you’re one illness away from financial ruin in this country.” –Dr. Steffie Woolhandler

I recommend watching Michael Moore’s documentary on US healthcare called SICKO. You can watch a 2 minute trailer here: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/8381…
I thought Moore made some very good points in this documentary about the sorry state of America’s health system. 

The US can easily afford universal healthcare and various other social welfare investment just like the UK, Canada Australia and even Russia and China have, but it’s instead spending trillions annually on the Military Industrial Complex in all these silly “wars” e.g. The War on Terror (which nobody understands).

 

Poll ends March

To view all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Benefits of mainstream medicine vs. alternative medicine debated in latest Underground Knowledge group poll

Posted: February 14, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Do you mostly use Mainstream Medicine or Alternative Medicine for your health? We put that question to members of our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com – and results to date show that many see merit in combining the two.

 

 

Interim poll results show that 36% of respondents mostly use mainstream medicine for their health; 35% use both mainstream and alternative; and 29% mostly use alternative medicine.

For clarity sake, we define mainstream medicine as a system in which medical doctors and other healthcare professionals (such as nurses, pharmacists, and therapists) treat symptoms and diseases using drugs, radiation, or surgery. Also called allopathic medicine, orthodox medicine, and Western medicine.

We define alternative medicine, also known as Complementary Medicine, as natural or traditional or native remedies. We also list the following examples of well-known alternative therapies: Acupressure, Acupuncture, Ayurvedic Medicine (more than 5,000 years old), Biofeedback, Bach Flower Remedies, Colon Therapy/Colonics, Chinese (Oriental) Medicine, Chiropractic, Osteopathy, Cupping (ancient Chinese medical technique), Craniosacral Therapy, Ear Candling, Electropathy, Fasting Therapy, Herbalism (one of most popular health systems worldwide), Hydrotherapy, Iridology, Magnetotherapy, Massage Therapy, Naturopathic Medicine, Vitamin Therapy, Yoga.

 

A random selection of poll respondents’ comments follow:

I mostly use alternative medicine but use all medical systems (including Western medicine), although avoid Big Pharma’s drugs like the plague and would only agree to surgery as a last resort.

The confusion about alternative medicine is that this one is efficient in certain areas and problems, but it is hard to identify the real cause of the healing when the healing process involves many substances, rituals, dancings, or massages in certain areas combined. And when you do not know the causes or how the system works, it is easy to invent and believe that there are chakras, body energies, magnetism and all sort of crap.

I’m not quite sure why we have to be fully for one or the other… Can we really make a decision or judgment based on such a vague premise? Much of Western medicine is great and much is not… the same goes for alternative medicine. It is impossible to stand for the entire array of medicine produced by western medicine or by the alternative route.

Biofeedack (a medicine I’ve also used with success) is generally listed as “complimentary medicine” or alternative, not generally used in mainstream medicine. It’s also often mocked by skeptics, as per this and other similar listings for biofeedback on skeptics forums: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/med…

Ironically, when someone will explain exactly how certain alternative medicine methods work, these will no longer be “alternative”, but “mainstream” (scientific). Until then, those who use alternative medicine are nothing more than voluntary guinea pigs.

…need to include the fact that what is often being called “science” to support a fair percentage of Western medicine is of course biased research funded by Big Pharma that aims for a specific outcome. And some of it is even anti-science in that it is not open to all possibilities (e.g. research that reveals this patented drug is not the best way to treat a specific illness will often be thrown out).

I wouldn’t personally say all elements of mainstream medicine must be scientifically proven. There’s lots of evidence of peer reviewed medical journals throwing out some studies and favoring others that fit their agenda. Pharma funds studies and makes sure the methods of testing and collecting evidence are biased. So sometimes science is proven and other times it’s fake science propping up medicines and practices.    

Each time in my life that I have been laid low and very ill it has been the alternative medicines / therapies which have given me back my life. I have gone to them out of frustration about our standard treatments.

 

Poll ends March 1.

 

To view all comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Goodreads group poll result shows support for euthanasia

Posted: February 2, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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The latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com, which asks “Do you believe euthanasia (voluntary assisted suicide) should be legalized?”, is proving predictably emotive.

 

 

Interim poll results show 66% say YES (euthanasia should be legalized); 19% say NO; and 15% are UNSURE.

Comments by Undergrounders (members of our Underground Knowledge group) reflect the ethical, legal and human dilemmas this issue poses.

A sample of poll respondents’ comments follows:

It is open to abuse but I do see the need for it in some cases. If a person asks to be released would you be willing to say yes or no?    

Yes and no – legalizing it opens up a number of benefits for people, but the chance for somebody to take advantage of the patients who want to die this way seems too much of an issue.

A relative is suffering a lot with bone cancer and maybe we should accept that she has the right to choose put an end on it (which is not permitted on my country).

Yes. Their life their choice.    

No. In Islam suicide is forbidden.    

I watched my husband go through over two years of pancreatic cancer reducing him to literally a shrunken skinned over bone person with a huge tumor growing in his middle. And yet, and yet, the will to live each remaining hour was still there. I suppose that if euthanasia was the request of the person when she/he reached a vegetative state would be alright IF the person consenting to it had power of attorney for health issues previously given, while sound of mind, would be okay. And yet, again, are we really to determine a natural part of existence? Would extreme pain, being totally immobilized in mind and body justify? Could I ask my children to bear the burden of such responsibility?

… this is a slippery slope, you may have hundreds of ppl who would kill people for money, saying they wanted me to kill them.     

It goes against my faith, as a Roman Catholic I’m supposed to believe all life is precious and only God should decide. I’m also a Registered Nurse who works with premature babies, some that should never have been submitted to such drastic life saving measures when less than 500 grams, and 23 weeks or less. This topic needs continued discussion and debate but I voted Yes.

It’s not okay to end your life because you are suffering, you never know what might happen next. Even the darkest night ends with dawn.    

I don’t see why if someone is in excruciating agony year after year with some terminal illness that they should not have the right to die early and end the extreme physical suffering if that’s what they want. After all, it’s their body and their life.

 

To view all comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Underground Knowledge group membership tops 1,500 on Goodreads

Posted: January 27, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Membership of our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  has topped 1,500 surely making it one of the fastest-growing active groups on the extraordinarily popular international readers and authors book site.

 

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Designed to encourage debates about important and underreported issues of our era, the Underground Knowledge group has fostered discussion and debate on a host of topics — some of them taboo, many of them contentious and all of them interesting.

 

Links to a random selection of the group’s discussion threads follow: 

The Queen’s invisible riches

Mysterious Deaths

The price of a free media

Medical Industrial Complex

False flag operations

International banksters

Secret methods to increase IQ

The Fourth Reich

Mind control

UFOs / ETs / Area 51 / Roswell

Puppet masters & secret oaths

Fringe science

Bankrupting the Third World

Underground bases

Yamashita’s Gold (WW2 cover-up)

Secret prisons

Drug wars

The Catcher in the Rye enigma

 

We also have 600+ book titles listed under Alternative thinking books and we have some controversial videos listed under https://www.goodreads.com/group/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group/videos/list

Popular videos include Unlawful Killing — Banned Documentary on Princess Diana’s Death (FULL) and A concerned American citizen and mom fights for the rights of her fellow citizens

 

To join our Underground Knowledge group, all you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or share “underground knowledge”.

>>> Check the group out at: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

Our members include scientists, social activists, teachers, historians, award-winning authors, former military and intelligence agency personnel, bankers, housewives, whistleblowers, students, former police officers, journalists, readers and many more.

 

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Sanders leads our US Presidential Election poll, Trump trails

Posted: January 20, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Bernie Sanders is the preferred candidate by a country mile for the 2016 US Presidential Election if the interim result of our Underground Knowledge group’s latest poll, on Goodreads.com, is any guideline. And for any who question the acumen, intelligence or wherewithal of ‘Undergrounders’ (our name for the group’s members), please be advised they include include Pulitzer Prize nominees, New York Times  bestselling authors, internationally-renowned scientists, leading investigative journalists, economists and social activists, ex-CIA and MI6 intelligence agents-turned whistleblowers, historians, neuroscientists and former NASA engineers to name but a few. 

 

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Sanders…poll front-runner.

 

In response to the question Who would you like to see win the 2016 United States Presidential Election?  interim results are as follows:

Bernie Sanders  35.6%
Ben Carson  11.5%
 
NONE of the names on this list:  9.6%
Donald Trump  8.7%
Jeb Bush  4.8%
Rand Paul  2.9%
Carly Fiorina  1.9%
Jesse Ventura  1.9%
Ted Cruz  1.9%
Jon Rappoport  1.9%
Mike Huckabee  1.0%
Marco Rubio  1.0%
Joe Biden  1.0%
Al Gore  1.0%
Roseanne Barr  1.0%
Ralph Nader  1.0%
Scott Walker  0.0%
Jill Stein  0.0%
Sarah Palin  0.0%
Jeff Boss  0.0%
Jim Webb  0.0%
John Kasich  0.0%
Zoltan Istvan  0.0%
George Pataki  0.0%
Bobby Jindal  0.0%
Rick Santorum  0.0%
Rick Perry  0.0%
Mitt Romney  0.0%
Jim Gilmore  0.0%
Our poll ends November 8.
To view poll respondents’ comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group
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‘Underground Knowledge’ group poll shows most believe Jonestown deaths were mass murder, not suicide

Posted: January 9, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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Do you believe the deaths at Jonestown were the result of suicides as per the official story or mass murder? That’s the question we put to members of the Underground Knowledge discussion group in our latest (continuing) poll on Goodreads.com

 

Bodies at Jonestown…mass murder or suicide?

 

Jonestown, of course, is the name synonymous with the mass deaths of the infamous (mainly American) Peoples Temple cult members in the jungles of Guyana. Since that dreadful event, in November, 1978, there has been considerable speculation on whether the deaths were suicide, as per the official story, or mass murder.

If ‘Undergrounders’ (group members) are correct, most believe it was mass murder. One compelling argument proffered to support this view is that many of the dead were children – and, of course, children don’t normally commit suicide, do they?

Interim poll results are:

–63% believe the deaths were mass murder.

–22% believe they were suicides.

–15% are unsure.

 

A random selection of poll respondents’ comments follows:

Mass murder, because children don’t “choose” suicide. Men with guns stood around until everyone had drunk the poisoned cool aide. Then they either drank it, or ran away. But those few men, who held the rifles were both murderers and the only few who actually committed suicide.   

No way this is a conspiracy. Jones and his followers killed a US Congressman, panicked and drank Kool-Aid. End of story.

I would say…Mass Murder – MK Ultra Mind Control

How do we know that they were shot except for verbal statements? 

The Guyanese army, whose soldiers were among the first on the scene, reported only 408 Temple members had died by their own hand. Then the New York Times reported the actual number was around 500. US Military personnel arrived several days later and the body count quickly rose – from 700 to a final tally of 909. No official explanation was ever given for these differing body counts although one US official was quoted as saying, “Guyanese cannot count.”

 …it’s madness! So much death and many things that don’t make sense. It’s either religious fanatics/cult or a corrupt government to blame and we know which explanation we’d rather go with. I vote unsure on this.  

This is a hard one to decide on there are so many sides to what the truth is and everyone has a different story to tell.   

Neil Sanders does a pretty good job at listing all the anomalies in the official story, as well as all the CIA involvement in the cult before the deaths, in this video here: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9605…

 

To see all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Also, check out our Jonestown discussion thread here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group…     

Poll ends January 10.

 

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Invitation to join lively Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads

Posted: January 7, 2016 in Books in general, Underground Knowledge
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We invite you to consider joining Underground Knowledge – a Goodreads discussion group and global community we have created to encourage dialogue about underreported issues of our era.

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

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With over 1,400 members already, Underground Knowledge is one of the most active and lively groups on Goodreads.com – the world’s leading social media site for book readers with 30 million members. The group is fast becoming the go-to place to learn about and discuss controversial facts, concepts and little-known events not generally reported in the mainstream media.

‘Undergrounders’ (our name for the group’s members) include New York Times  bestselling authors, internationally-renowned scientists, leading investigative journalists, economists, social activists, ex-CIA and MI6 intelligence agents turned whistleblowers, neuroscientists and former NASA engineers. There are even Pulitzer Prize nominees.

Become an Undergrounder today and start contributing to this growing movement that’s all about sharing “underground knowledge” with the masses so together we may create a better world… https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

Lance & James Morcan  (group founders)

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Universal income / bare minimum wage poll strikes chord

Posted: January 1, 2016 in Underground Knowledge
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The latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  has struck a chord with most respondents indicating they believe a universal income for all citizens would be beneficial.

 

 

We put the following question to group members: Do you believe your country would prosper from having a Universal Income aka “Basic Income” (i.e. a bare minimum wage unconditionally granted to all citizens)?

Interim results show: 57% say YES / 38% say NO / 5% are UNSURE.

 

A random selection of poll respondents’ comments follow:

As someone who believes in Capitalism, I previously would have voted NO on this subject. But having now researched it in depth and seen the success stories of trials done in Canada and EU countries, I can see the merits and therefore voted YES.

I think being able for a country/state/city to provide citizens with basic needs is an excellent idea. ..and who knows. ..it may end up cutting down welfare costs in the long run.    

I would never be in favor of a minimum income if welfare didn’t go away. It’s double dipping. You have income. Ok, need more? You are responsible to go get it. This is separate from charitable efforts if someone is medically challenged. This has always been an aspect of society–to take care of the helpless.

Countries/states/cities that have trialed the basic income idea have found cases of domestic violence, petty crime, drug addiction and ill-health caused by poverty have all dropped by a significant amount.   

Finland is doing it. We’ll have direct evidence of its effects. Beside, Finland analysts have shown how the maneuver will actually SAVE money for the State. At the same time, they will remove a costly bureaucratic apparatus to manage unemployment benefits, requests and their processing, paperwork, and much more.    

To live people need enough money to do so. If you remove all income from people then they have no choice but to turn to crime, to survive. Therefore it is insane not to have a basic income for the lowest of the low but those actually working should earn more as an incentive to do so.    

I can see the value in doing a minimum wage to every American. If we simplified the tax code, we could use it also to substitute for the many tax credits like “earned income” which is essentially a refund for taxes NOT paid. There would be a lot of saving on complexity.

I’ve recently had this discussion on Linked In at the following, albeit with a slightly different op ed introduction to the issue. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/univer…

I voted no because the question did not say anything else would go away, so I had to assume this redistribution of income would be IN ADDITION to programs that already exist. Now, if the question was worded to say it would replace those programs, then I’d have to rethink my answer but it would likely not change because people need to have the support especially among those who are inept.    

These days I tend to think a smart nation should be generous with social welfare and assume that there will be a small element (maybe 5-10%) who “free load”.

 

This poll was inspired by this excerpt of INTERNATIONAL BANKSTER$: The Global Banking Elite Exposed and the Case for Restructuring Capitalism posted in this discussion thread here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/…

INTERNATIONAL BANKSTER$: The Global Banking Elite Exposed and the Case for Restructuring Capitalism (The Underground Knowledge Series Book 5)

 

A good summary of the basic income model can also be found on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_i…

 

Poll ends January 13.

To view all comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

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Open letter to members of the Underground Knowledge group on Goodreads

Posted: December 25, 2015 in Underground Knowledge
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Goodreads: Book reviews, recommendations, and discussion

Dear Undergrounders

Our Underground Knowledge discussion group on the popular readers and authors’ site Goodreads.com  now has about 1,390 members, aka Undergrounders. Thanks to everyone who has joined lately.

This global discussion forum was designed to encourage debates about underreported issues of our era. We trust you’ll agree it’s unique and provides a platform for those who don’t normally have a voice.

If you see value in the group, please consider inviting your friends to join via this link: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invit…

VIDEOS:
We now have over 100 videos listed on the group which all contain little known facts and/or controversial theories: https://www.goodreads.com/group/14230…

Alien Abduction and Extraterrestrial Human Hybrids with Dr. David M. Jacobs

This week’s video pick:

Alien Abduction & Extraterrestrial Human Hybrids -Dr. David M. Jacobs

UNDERGROUND AUTHORS:
As many readers like to discover new authors over the holiday season, I thought I’d introduce a selection of authors who are Underground Knowledge members:

Award-winning journalist and Pulitzer Prize nominated author Gerald Posner: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show… Gerald’s recently published God’s Bankers: A History of Money and Power at the Vatican is well worth a read.

God's Bankers: A History of Money and Power at the Vatican

Sibel Edmonds (AKA ‘The most classified woman in U.S. history’): https://www.goodreads.com/author/show… Sibel has written some brilliant whistleblowing books, both in non-fiction and fiction.

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British author/poet (and honorary Undergrounder!) Harry Whitewolf: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show… I’ve read/reviewed all of Harry’s books and rated them all 4-5 stars, including the wild The Road To Purification: Hustlers, Hassles & Hash, which I recently announced as My favorite book of 2015.

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Dr. Kevin Coleman and his wife Flavia Ursino have written the intriguing medical romance-thriller novel Monkey Business: A Story of Soulmates and Primates which I’m reading now and enjoying: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

I’m also currently reading a great non-fiction book for radical thinking by Boston-based philosopher Arthur D. Schwartz, titled Ethical Empowerment: Virtue Beyond the Paradigms: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1…

Former journalist and military Martin Roy Hill is the prolific and award-winning author of mystery thrillers & science fiction: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

Aussie medical intuitive Carmel Bell chronicles her Near Death Experience in the thought-provoking When All Else Fails (which I gave a 5 star rating): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8…

US neurologist and novelist Stephen Martino’s debut is the well-reviewed The New Reality: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2… Stephen is soon to publish The Hidden Reality, his second book in his sci-fi series.

Nik Krasno fled his native Soviet Union and immigrated to Israel where he became a lawyer and author. Check out his exciting ‘Oligarch series’ which is partly based on real corruption and crime in the former USSR and modern-day Russia: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

Another Israeli author is Dov Ivry, a former Canadian journalist who migrated to Israel and now writes books (42 different titles and counting!) on all manner of controversial subjects: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

US veteran, former police officer, and special-education teacher Dennis Nappi II appears to be writing some unique books about the human condition & alternative history … I for one am looking forward to reading them soon: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

UCLA fiction writing teacher Tantra Bensko has some intriguing neo-noir and psychological suspense novels available: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

British author Tim Pyke published his debut novel, the profound spiritual adventure The Wheels of Samsara earlier this year: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

Chinese activist Soleilmavis Liu has some unique books on mind control and little-known Chinese history: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

Rupert Dreyfus is a fairly new novelist on the scene who is garnering some attention and who the Morning Star called “an authentic and vital writer”. Rupert is a rebel who takes cynical swipes at the establishment at every opportunity! https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

K.P. Merriweather writes in the in fantasy, science fiction, and psychological thriller genres: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

English journalist, traveller and climate-change researcher Mike Robbins has a series of fiction and non-fiction books out including his latest release Dog! which sounds really funny: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

Cortina Jackson’s conspiracy-thriller On Earth As It Is In Hell is a far out novel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

Rebecca Gransden’s debut novel anemogram has been described as an “indie gem” and a “literary masterpiece” – check out this mystery story: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

Paul Howsley writes contemporary, speculative, and dystopian fiction primarily about social justice and equality – check out his debut novel The Year of the Badgers: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

Mikhayla Gracey writes about the history of mind control and those who target children: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show…

Erma I Talamante recently published ‘The Companion’, the first book in a new dystopian series, ‘Electric Sheep’: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2…

And finally, there’s my co-writer Lance Morcan and myself and our non-fiction series (7 books so far and counting) aptly titled Underground Knowledge: https://www.goodreads.com/series/1425… This series discloses more than a few secrets, if I do say so myself!

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Oh, and if you’re still unsure what the hell this group is all about, then have a read of this intro post: What is “underground knowledge” and why is it important? https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/…

Have a great holiday season, everybody…and all the best for 2016!

Until next time: be seein’ you in the “underground” 😉

James

(Group co-founder)

 

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Death penalty gets thumbs down in latest Underground Knowledge group poll… Have YOUR say

Posted: December 19, 2015 in Underground Knowledge
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Interim results of the latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  show around half are against the death penalty for heinous crimes.

 

 

The exact question put to Undergrounders (group members) was: Do you think there should be a death penalty for the most heinous crimes?

Results to date are as follows: 52% say NO / 22% say YES / 26% are UNSURE

 

Respondents’ comments make for interesting reading. A random selection of comments follows:

“Thou shalt not kill and if anyone does, we’re gonna kill ya!” makes no sense.

I voted 100% YES for the death penalty. I’d even pull the switch if there’s no other volunteers. Reason being…there are recidivist offenders out there who are just plain evil and beyond education, rehabilitation, redemption, salvation or any other ‘tion’. Beyond hope in other words. 

Am basically against the death penalty, especially as some of those on death row are occasionally proven to be innocent…including sometimes posthumously.

In the case of rape, the rapist would kill the victim if there’s death penalty for it. Almost always. Don’t know what to think!  

I have no right to decide who should be killed REGARDLESS of their crime. It would only be vengeance to make one feel better – that doesn’t make it right.    

I do believe there has to be a punishment that equals the crime. However, is the death penalty the answer? For some, it would be, an eye for an eye. For other the death penalty is the easy way out. Life in Prison without the possibility of parole would be a more realistic punishment. Here in Califonia, there are approximately 750 on death row awaiting execution; however, all executions are on hold. Many of those on death row have been there over 20 years, costing millions of taxpayer dollars in legal costs along.    

Why spend $100K (est.) a year to keep a proven killer in lockdown when that money could actually go toward saving lives? Seems society is more focused on looking after offenders than the offenders’ victims and victims’ families.

 

To read all respondents’ comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to our Underground Knowledge group poll at: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Poll ends December 16.

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Check it out!

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

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