Posts Tagged ‘terrorists’

Running hot in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com  is a video-taped interview with Syrian-Australian blogger Maram Susli, who goes by Mimi Al Laham, or “Syrian Girl”. In it, she  discusses who might be behind the bizarre new staged  ISIS beheading video and why a group known for its barbarity would need to fake executions at all. Her video, which has gone viral on YouTube, can be viewed at https://www.goodreads.com/videos/91200-syrian-girl-who-s-behind-the-weird-staged-isis-beheading-videos

She has been labelled a pro-Bashar al-Assad mouthpiece and a Kim Kardashian wannabe

Syrian Girl speaks out on those “staged” ISIS beheadings.

An October 21 report on the Daily Mail’s MailOnline  news site introduces Syrian Girl as “the internet sensation” and describes her as “a Kim Kardashian wannabe who fearlessly posts her views on ISIS, al-Assad, the US and the conflict that is destroying her homeland”.

The same report reads, in part, as follows: “Ms Susli says she speaks out on social media because she is dismayed by watching her birth country being destroyed. She is critical of Syrian rebels, ISIS and the United States. She wants to see Syria’s ‘army strong’ and its ‘borders solid’.

“ ‘People are dying, and I have a duty as a human being and as someone of Syrian origin to expose the truth about why,’ Ms Susli said.

“ ‘A duty to give a voice to those Syrians who have not been heard, who have rejected the instability caused by the US support of the extremist rebels…’ ”

The report continues, “Ms Susli is currently studying a postgraduate degree in Australia after completing a science degree with a double major in biophysics and chemistry.

“But she dedicates a large amount of time to blogging about her country of origin, which she has visited many times while living in Australia over the past two decades.

“ ‘Politics has been my passion even before the war in Syria, so it’s logical that when war began in the country of my birth, which I visit often and where my extend family reside, I’d be even more passionate,’ she said”.

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ISIS and the war on terror feature prominently in the ‘False flag operations‘ discussion threads in our Underground Knowledge group. To check these out go to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group_folder/241275?group_id=142309

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As membership of our fledgling ‘Underground Knowledge’ discussion group on the popular literary site Goodreads.com  approaches 1200 – in fact it may have hit that milestone by the time you read this – one discussion thread is currently running hot. It’s simply titled: What is terrorism and who gets to define the term?

The discussion thread began with the following post from a member:

As a western woman, the definition of terrorism is something that fascinates me. I want to know if there is any valid, objective definition of terrorism.

I find it interesting that in media the choice of words is very selective. When someone here in (the) West barges into school and kills hundreds of innocent children, the news often comes out as ‘gunman massacred children at primary school’. I guess most would agree that this is a terrorist act but it is never labeled as an act of terrorism. So does it mean, an individual’s action cannot be deemed as such and for it to qualify the action must be carried out by an organised group?

Hate group is another (term) which I find very confusing. Are hate groups, terrorist groups too? KKK is often labeled as a hate group but in fact their actions were the same as any terrorist group.

If you have to ask someone to name a few terrorist groups you would like get ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda and Taliban as the answer. Most people wouldn’t even think of our North American grown KKK as a bunch of terrorists. Does it mean that for terrorism to qualify, a group has to be an alien agency threatening western democracies?

With the likes of Al Qaeda and more recently ISIS dominating world headlines, it’s not surprising our members (Undergrounders) are vocal on the subject. At least two and possibly more of our members are former intelligence agents. (In one case, the gentleman concerned is a Britt who worked for British intelligence and, on occasion, for the CIA). They have contributed to this discussion thread.

Member’s selected/abridged comments (abridged) follow:

When suicide bombers go in to a military congregation and blow up soldiers AND inadvertently kill nearby civilians, this is called “terrorism”. However, when the West uses drone strikes where terrorists have been reported to be, and inadvertently wipe out an entire hospital or school or village, this is called “collateral damage” or a “an unfortunate accident for which the White House sincerely apologizes for”.

Most ‘terrorist’ attacks are usually organised by the government or agencies as an excuse to change laws or go to war.

The lines blur with terms like terrorists and it often depends who is telling the story as to who the terrorists are… I would say the superpower nations are the biggest terrorists, especially if you do a body count of all their carnage around the planet in the last few decades.

When everything is leaked and Wikileaked, I do wonder who the history books will eventually record as being the biggest terrorists of the 21st Century.

Let’s make no mistake, the spoils of The War on Terror are most likely the biggest spoils of any war in history…

There is an old saying, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”…In 1946, the Jewish Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing some 90 people. That was one of dozens of similar Irgun attacks. One of the Irgun leaders, Menachem Begin later became prime minister of Israel… It seems terrorism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Given that over 1,000,000 Muslims (and counting) have died at the hands of Western aggression in the West’s stated attempt to reduce terrorism, I wonder what the history books of the future will call the War on Terror?

So we can all agree Islamic terrorism is very real. Denying its existence would be foolish, not to mention ignoring the fact that the moderate sectors of the Muslim world (who despite what Western media implies, is the VAST majority of Islamic population) are constantly mentioning their desire for terrorism to end (albeit without more phony wars). So to be clear, I stand for peace and the betterment of all peoples whatever nationality or race. But in saying all that, assessing whether terrorism is the big global threat to civilization is really a case of the devil being in the detail…The fine print is where many of the arguments that pass for fact in our shoddy 21st Century media (e.g. terrorists are everywhere, there’s not enough wealth in the world, Third World countries have limited resources etc, etc) often do not stack up under close inspection.

To read all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2122895-what-is-terrorism-and-who-gets-to-define-the-term?page=1 

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The latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com asks: Do you believe the official story of Osama Bin Laden’s death was real or staged? To date, 48% of poll respondents say it was staged, 31% say it was real and 21% are unsure.

 

Bin Laden…dead or alive?

 

A random selection of poll respondents’ comments follow. (Names withheld):

I tend not to believe the story of Osama Bin Laden’s death simply because upon further research there appears to be too many holes, inconsistencies and flat-out contradictions in the reports.

I believe Bin Laden was killed by Navy SEALs as reported by the government. Are there inconsistencies in the reporting on his death? Yes. But consider this: As a former investigative journalist, I know reporters rarely get things 100% correct, nor does their reporting jive with each other’s. Second, as someone with nearly 26 years of military experience, I know operations rarely go as planned and getting all the details often takes months or years no matter how much debriefing or after action reports are produced. A lot of details are left out because personnel simply don’t want to own up to their own actions.

It is known that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent. He was controlled by US intelligent corps. Maybe he was dead by suffering illness and the murder by the US marine corps was a fiction.

I’m unsure if what was told to us concerning his death was accurate or not. Our Government has not been the pinnacle of truth through our history as a country. My own Native American People can vouch for this. Who knows what truly happened. I doubt we will really ever know.

Have you ever watched “The Hunting Party” starring Richard Gere? To me the whole thing is staged but I don’t know the details of what is really going on because it hasn’t stopped. I don’t know if Osama Bin Laden was who he says he is or not. But his death was SO fabricated it was almost funny! Sometimes I think he isn’t even dead yet. Where is the body?

To view all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

 

Poll ends July 20.

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America’s Military Industrial Complex has taken the US in the exact opposite direction to the nation’s Founding Fathers’ orginal vision. This according to a commentary posted in our ‘Underground Knowledge’ group on Goodreads.com by co-moderator James Morcan.

 

James Morcan

James Morcan…”People need to get real.”

 

James’ commentary reads as follows:

I honestly feel the Military Industrial Complex has taken the US in the exact opposite direction to the original vision for America the nation’s Founding Fathers laid out…It’s an out of control entity that is single handedly destroying the US (economically and morally) in my view.

This is beyond dated ideas of Left or Right politics, and honestly there are as many Republicans/Patriots that no longer have any faith in the military’s ethics.

Vietnam veteran and Oscar-winning filmmaker Oliver Stone says the Military Industrial Complex is essentially a separate country to the US with virtually no interests that align with America’s interests and I’ve gotta agree with him there.

Many other insiders and whistleblowers have expressed the same opinion. For example, Underground Knowledge member Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI employee turned whistleblower, is one of numerous ex-intelligence agency employees who say these post 9/11 wars are being engineered by warmongers who are bankrupting the US in the process.

By causing all these wars or foreign invasions, the Military Industrial Complex is surely an entity that must be a thousand times bigger threat to the West’s freedom than any little outside threat such as Islamic desert nomads or cave dwellers are…Muslim extremists (a tiny percentage of the Islamic world) ain’t ever going to threaten the might of the American empire any more than the Domino Theory even got close to occurring when Vietnam fell and became entirely Communist (a long-held prediction by warmongers like MacArthur that proved to be woefully inaccurate). The US empire is arguably the most dominant in history and believing Islamic terrorists could ever be a threat would be equivalent to saying the small Jewish community at the time of Christ could overthrow Rome…

And I’m not ignoring terrorism or romanticizing the religion of Islam, but people need to get real about it.

Even if 9/11 was solely caused by terrorists with no assistance from rogue elements in the US Govt, which is a very big IF in my opinion, it still doesn’t amount to much overall. Especially as there’s been no other terrorist strikes of that magnitude since on US soil or anywhere else in the West.

I’m not some foreigner criticizing America for the sake of it by the way, but rather I’m someone who actually feels American in spirit and have also lived in the US and believe the foundations of America and the Constitution are by far the greatest construction of any nation in history. So I feel sad by what’s happened in recent decades. America can be, like it used to be, the light for the world that every other nation can aspire to be like in terms of civil liberties and equality for all citizens.

It’s also a shame that many foreigners when they now think of America now only think of a big, ugly fascist bully dominating and invading weaker nations. And that again is very sad as America once solely stood for freedom and the Founding Fathers also spoke of liberty for all other nations, not just America’s freedom. That Good Samaritan reputation has long since faded.

Whenever I come across people hating on America when I travel, I always try to explain to these people that there’s a massive difference between recent warmongering US administrations and the American people. I’ve been the recipient of a lot of goodwill from Americans, especially in my main career as a filmmaker, and I realize it’s not just foreign countries that have been screwed by the military but it’s also the American taxpayers as well.

 

To view all the comments in our Underground Knowledge group to to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2288568-the-us-military-industrial-complex-vs-the-american-people

 

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