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Two thirds of respondents in our latest Underground Knowledge group poll in Goodreads.com believe whistleblowers Edward Snowden, Julian Assange & Bradley Manning are heroes, not traitors.

Whistleblowers Manning, Assange and Snowden…heroes or traitors?

In response to the question What is your opinion of whistleblowers like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange & Bradley Manning who leak classified intelligence information to the public concerning their own government’s criminal activities? 67% say they’re heroes; only 7% believe they’re traitors; some 21% say they’re a mixture of heroes and traitors; and 5% are undecided. (Interim results).

A random sample of poll respondents’ comments follows:

Speak of the devil, Edward Snowden joined Twitter today: https://twitter.com/Snowden or @Snowden In less that 24 hrs he had 1,000,000 followers. While Snowden himself only follows 1 Twitter account: the NSA!

Count me as one of those followers (of @Snowden). I told him I think he is a hero. Now to wait for the armed, jackbooted whom ever to kick in my door and take me away.

Snowden’s latest tweet was pretty funny: “Meanwhile, a thousand people at Fort Meade just opened Twitter.” So he’s implying 1,000 NSA employees immediately joined twitter simply to monitor his tweets. Ha!

These guys did not go to the Inspector General, they dumped everything into the public sector, and one ran straight to the most dangerous enemy civilization still has: Putin. If Snowden had pumped & dumped and stayed in Waikiki, or flown directly to LA or NYC then it would have been poorly executed whistleblowing. By taking the trash directly to enemies of the State, and frankly enemies to civilization itself, they became traitors. Plain and simple.

… the real TRAITORS to the US Govt, the Cheney’s, Bush, and yes Obama, Rumsfeld, Clinton, McCain and others!!

“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give to an American.” ―Edward Snowden

On every level of government, the People are responsible for keeping all laws Constitutional and for removing from office officials who commit acts against the law or the Constitution. We are each responsible and should give hero’s welcome to all whistle blowers.

Snowden should still be shot for treason. Cheney should have something worse done to him: siezure of all his assets and those of his cronies under the Haliburton umbrella corporation for restitution to their victims worldwide. …And then prison for the rest of his miserable life.

How Snowden and Manning chose to act was poorly at best, and completely against the good of this nation or the security of our citizens. Like the fact that they ‘raged against the machine’? Great, but the choices they made were clearly wrong, and their stated goals do not match the actions taken; traitorous.

Fixating on minor misdemeanours of “whistleblowers-traitors” against a traitorous intelligence industry is like criticizing the jail warden who pulls the switch that kills mass murderers on death row.

Key reason the mass public is by and large getting behind the likes of Snowden, Manning and Assange is that the public don’t give a flying f^#% about the military’s rules and regulations, because they know the Military Industrial Complex doesn’t give a flying f$^# about the public anymore.

To see all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

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Our freedom of speech philosophy and no-rules policy appeal to fellow Undergrounders (members of our Underground Knowledge discussion group on the international literary site Goodreads.com) if the group’s burgeoning membership is any guideline: membership has just topped 1200, making it one of the fastest growing groups of its kind – if not the fastest – on the popular Amazon-owned book site.

James Morcan discusses Underground Knowledge on Boston's Philosophic Perspectives Radio Show

The Underground Knowledge group has been designed to encourage debates about important and underreported issues of our era. All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or share ‘underground knowledge.’

The inspiration for the group was our first non-fiction book The Orphan Conspiracies – a book one Amazon reviewer describes as “More conspiracy fact than fiction.” Another reviewer says, “This book may scare the pants off you!” and yet another says, “Every American should read this book.”

The Orphan Conspiracies: 29 Conspiracy Theories from The Orphan Trilogy

Book the inspiration for our group.

Some of the group’s discussion threads contain literally hundreds of posts by members – a reflection no doubt of the timely and often controversial topics covered in these threads. Examples of those topics are listed in earlier blogs.

Also mighty popular are our ongoing polls. For example, our latest poll, which closes October 16 PDT, asks: What is your opinion of whistleblowers like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange & Bradley Manning who leak classified intelligence information to the public concerning their own government’s criminal activities?

Whistleblowers Manning, Assange and Snowden.

Interim poll results show two thirds of respondents consider them heroes. To view the interim results and comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group 

Examples of earlier polls include:

Do you believe World Trade Center 7 (aka Building 7), which no plane hit on 9/11, collapsed solely due to fires as per the official story?

Do you believe genius-level intelligence is primarily the result of nature (genes) or nurture (education, environment, parenting etc)?

Do you believe Jesus Christ was a real historical person?

Do you believe Robert (Bobby) F. Kennedy (RFK) was solely killed by the “lone gunman” Sirhan Sirhan?

Do you believe the likes of Bill Gates & Warren Buffett are the richest people in the world as per the annual Forbes Rich Lists?

Do you believe classified mind control technologies are being used by governments on innocent citizens?

Do you believe MARILYN MONROE committed SUICIDE or was MURDERED?

Do you believe A.I. (artificial intelligence) will ever be more advanced/sophisticated than human intelligence?

Do you believe time travel is possible?

Do you believe the Pyramids of Giza were constructed solely to be burial chambers (tombs) for the pharaohs as Egyptologists tell us?

Do you……and the list goes on… Check it out via the above  link.

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Members of our Underground Knowledge group include scientists, journalists, moms and dads, historians, doctors, whistleblowers, authors, bankers, teachers, intelligence personnel, housewives, students, Army vets, pacifists, conspiracy theorists, the odd redneck and the Average Joe. All viewpoints welcome!

To visit the Underground Knowledge group, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group   

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In the latest poll in our ‘Underground Knowledge’ group on Goodreads.com, we ask members: What is your opinion of whistleblowers like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning who leak classified intelligence information to the public concerning their own government’s criminal activities?

Whistleblowers Manning, Assange and Snowden

Interim results show that 68% of poll respondents consider the whistleblowers are heroes; only 10% consider them traitors; some 16% consider them a combination of both traitors and heroes; and 6% are undecided.

Respondents’ comments make for interesting reading. Some of those comments (abridged) follow:

They are both. On one hand they are heroes because they exposed governmental misconduct at personal risk. On the other they are traitors because as government employees they violated an oath and perhaps put some people at risk. What if the military personnel who man the nuclear weapons were given the same freedom to violate their duties? Snowden should be lauded and then put in prison.

These people do the public and their countries a great service which puts themselves in jeopardy!…The three listed above are the ones that stand out most in peoples minds, BUT, there are many others including news reporters who “have accidents” Mike Hastings and Martin Burns being two i know of personally.

The facts could have been shared with Congressmen who write the laws, and could have affected changes these men sought, without compromising the security of this nation or the safety of our people. The Americans are nothing less than traitors and should be shot. Assange has just been exploiting any exposed secrets, to the detriment of any and all nations or people involved.

Risking everything – their jobs/careers, good relationships with colleagues, friends and families, not to mention their own lives! – is something extremely heroic, some might even say foolish. In my opinion though, it shows an extreme level of unrelenting devotion and unbending commitment to one’s principles and morals…

Is it right to rendition and torture people who are innocent, is it right to drone strike civilian targets, is it right to arm train and fund terrorism, is it right to ship major amounts of narcotics into the USA?

NONE OF THAT IS RIGHT!!!

Praise to those who expose it!!

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Yes, it is the duty of every serviceman or woman to report wrongdoings, and even disobey illegal orders. However, all of the activities divulged were legal under the authorities granted, or they were dealt with using the legal system. Reports must be made through the chain of command, or barring that to the Inspectors General. Neither of those options was chosen.

Contractors hired for wetwork? Yes, very wrong, but not illegal during the Bush/Cheney administrations, because Cheney’s cronies were involved.

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I don’t think that’s correct, K……. At least some of Assange’s leaks exposed highly illegal activities, for example the footage of helicopter pilots shooting Iraqis for sport including civilians. There were numerous other similar leaks, I’m pretty sure.

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You can imprison one Manning or Assange, or kill another, but the spirit of whistleblowers is alive and well now and it’s the beginning of the end for the global elite. You cannot kill or imprison them all and what we are seeing so far is literally the first wave of whistleblowers from the military and CIA etc.

To see all the comments, or better still to have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Poll ends October 10, 2015.

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The Underground Knowledge discussion group is open to everyone! All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times. This group is also for like-minded people to discuss the controversial topics explored in The Underground Knowledge Series, which includes the non-fiction books Genius Intelligence, Antigravity Propulsion, Medical Industrial Complex, The Catcher in the Rye Enigma and International Bankster$.

Our members include scientists, journalists, moms and dads, historians, doctors, whistleblowers, authors, bankers, teachers, intelligence personnel, housewives, students, Army vets, pacifists, conspiracy theorists, the odd redneck and the Average Joe. All viewpoints welcome!

To visit the group, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group  

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Have you ever accessed the Deep Web and looked at any of the “secret” content on the Internet that’s not indexed via Google or other regular search engines? That’s the question posed in the latest poll in our Underground Knowledge discussion group on Goodreads.com – and interim results show few have (accessed it).

As of August 26 (US time) only 12% of poll respondents claim to have accessed the Deep Web; the balance either haven’t or are unsure.

A random sample of poll respondents’ comments follows:

I haven’t visited the Deep Web and not sure what technology or software allows one to access it, but recently became interested in the subject as per this discussion thread: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/…

It seems like the Deep Web could potentially have a lot of positive benefits…Kind of like the last line of defence if governments turn fascist or otherwise totalitarian. For example, the documentary mentioned how the Deep Web is being used in nations like China and Iran where the regular internet is highly censored by those governments and most (innocent) citizens are spied on. But again, the Deep Web definitely seems like a place where networks of criminals can work undetected and orchestrate crimes such as human trafficking more effectively.

As it is with almost everything, what makes the Deep Web dangerous is not the Deep Web itself, but the intent of one when accessing it. For instance, I know that some people go there and download technical books – mostly needed for work/academical reasons – when they can’t find such books anywhere else. That can’t be bad, right? But then again, if you go there looking for bad stuff, you might end up finding it.

My (limited) understanding is the Deep Web is legal content and the Dark Web is illegal content. So I guess I’m primarily focused primarily on the (legal) Deep Web and whether it can eventually become some kind of “Little Brother” technology the masses use to fight back against all the advanced technology of Big Brother… 🙂

No, and it doesn’t have any appeal for me either!

The news media kept telling me only criminals use the Deep Web…But then I heard 96% of the internet is the Deep Web that’s invisible to most users and that accessing the Deep Web is perfectly legal. So the criminal side is just one side to it, by the sounds of it. So now I’m wondering if there may be some useful or even life-changing info in that 96%…But I don’t pretend to understand the Deep Web and the concept is hard to get my head around it.

As far as I know, there is nothing illegal about accessing the Deep Web. What is illegal is to access it with criminal intentions in mind. There are actually very “out there” softwares that allow you to access it with considerable safety.

Deep Web for Journalists – Comms, Counter-Surveillance, Search looks along the lines of what I’m wondering might happen in future i.e. The Deep Web could become a way for whistleblowers to protect themselves.

As the mainstream media has repeatedly reported, there is obviously some really dark and sickening stuff occurring on the Deep/Dark Web – including crimes against children and even the hiring of assassins online to kill other citizens.

To view all the comments go to: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group?type=group

Poll ends September 7, 2015.

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The Underground Knowledge discussion group is open to everyone! All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times. This group is also for like-minded people to discuss the controversial topics explored in The Underground Knowledge Series, which includes the non-fiction books Genius Intelligence, Antigravity Propulsion, Medical Industrial Complex and The Catcher in the Rye Enigma.

Our members include scientists, journalists, moms and dads, historians, doctors, whistleblowers, authors, bankers, teachers, intelligence personnel, housewives, students, Army vets, pacifists, conspiracy theorists, the odd redneck and the Average Joe. All viewpoints welcome!

To visit the group, or better still to join the group and have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group  

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Flight MH370, Princess Diana, Boston Bombings, 9/11, suppressed science, hidden cures, MK-Ultra, undeclared fortunes, drugs wars, media manipulation, banned books of Bible, global warming and more… No subject is off limits in our Underground Knowledge group on the popular literary site Goodreads.

James Morcan discusses Underground Knowledge on Boston's Philosophic Perspectives Radio Show

Membership of the group has just topped 1100, reinforcing our belief that members welcome our freedom of speech policy and our no rules ‘rule’.

The group is open to everyone! All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times. Our members include scientists, journalists, moms and dads, historians, doctors, whistleblowers, authors, bankers, teachers, intelligence personnel, housewives, students, Army vets, pacifists, conspiracy theorists, the odd redneck and the Average Joe. Everyone’s welcome!

A small sample of some of the group’s most contentious or interesting discussion threads follows:

Alternative thinking books 

The 2016 U.S. Presidential Election  

Was 9/11 a false flag attack and ‘Inside Job’? 54% of you voted YES 

The Slap TV show, Child Trafficking and Corrupt Child Protection with Tammi Stefano

Finding (hiding) a cure for cancer 

New Zealand Now Recognizes ALL Animals As Sentient Beings

James Morcan discusses Underground Knowledge on Boston’s Philosophic Perspectives Radio Show

How to spot a sociopath

What really happened to AA Flight 587?

25 Signs That The Global Elite’s Ship Is About To Sink

Is the Islamic State (IS/ISIS) another invention of the West? 

Global Warming – is it real?

The US Military’s proposal to kill American civilians (Operation Northwoods declassified)

Mozart & shattering the inborn genius myth

Are aliens visiting Earth or not????  

How much is Queen Elizabeth II worth??

To visit the Underground Knowledge group, or better still to join and have YOUR say, go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group

 

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America’s Military Industrial Complex has taken the US in the exact opposite direction to the nation’s Founding Fathers’ orginal vision. This according to a commentary posted in our ‘Underground Knowledge’ group on Goodreads.com by co-moderator James Morcan.

 

James Morcan

James Morcan…”People need to get real.”

 

James’ commentary reads as follows:

I honestly feel the Military Industrial Complex has taken the US in the exact opposite direction to the original vision for America the nation’s Founding Fathers laid out…It’s an out of control entity that is single handedly destroying the US (economically and morally) in my view.

This is beyond dated ideas of Left or Right politics, and honestly there are as many Republicans/Patriots that no longer have any faith in the military’s ethics.

Vietnam veteran and Oscar-winning filmmaker Oliver Stone says the Military Industrial Complex is essentially a separate country to the US with virtually no interests that align with America’s interests and I’ve gotta agree with him there.

Many other insiders and whistleblowers have expressed the same opinion. For example, Underground Knowledge member Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI employee turned whistleblower, is one of numerous ex-intelligence agency employees who say these post 9/11 wars are being engineered by warmongers who are bankrupting the US in the process.

By causing all these wars or foreign invasions, the Military Industrial Complex is surely an entity that must be a thousand times bigger threat to the West’s freedom than any little outside threat such as Islamic desert nomads or cave dwellers are…Muslim extremists (a tiny percentage of the Islamic world) ain’t ever going to threaten the might of the American empire any more than the Domino Theory even got close to occurring when Vietnam fell and became entirely Communist (a long-held prediction by warmongers like MacArthur that proved to be woefully inaccurate). The US empire is arguably the most dominant in history and believing Islamic terrorists could ever be a threat would be equivalent to saying the small Jewish community at the time of Christ could overthrow Rome…

And I’m not ignoring terrorism or romanticizing the religion of Islam, but people need to get real about it.

Even if 9/11 was solely caused by terrorists with no assistance from rogue elements in the US Govt, which is a very big IF in my opinion, it still doesn’t amount to much overall. Especially as there’s been no other terrorist strikes of that magnitude since on US soil or anywhere else in the West.

I’m not some foreigner criticizing America for the sake of it by the way, but rather I’m someone who actually feels American in spirit and have also lived in the US and believe the foundations of America and the Constitution are by far the greatest construction of any nation in history. So I feel sad by what’s happened in recent decades. America can be, like it used to be, the light for the world that every other nation can aspire to be like in terms of civil liberties and equality for all citizens.

It’s also a shame that many foreigners when they now think of America now only think of a big, ugly fascist bully dominating and invading weaker nations. And that again is very sad as America once solely stood for freedom and the Founding Fathers also spoke of liberty for all other nations, not just America’s freedom. That Good Samaritan reputation has long since faded.

Whenever I come across people hating on America when I travel, I always try to explain to these people that there’s a massive difference between recent warmongering US administrations and the American people. I’ve been the recipient of a lot of goodwill from Americans, especially in my main career as a filmmaker, and I realize it’s not just foreign countries that have been screwed by the military but it’s also the American taxpayers as well.

 

To view all the comments in our Underground Knowledge group to to: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2288568-the-us-military-industrial-complex-vs-the-american-people

 

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One of us (James) is currently reading the memoir Classified Woman, by former FBI employee-turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, and it’s a real eye-opener.

Nicknamed “the most classified woman in U.S. history,” Ms Edmonds recently joined our Underground Knowledge group on Goodreads.com – hence our recommendation of her book to fellow members. The ‘most classified woman’ tag, incidentally, is because of gagging orders placed on her by Congress as a result of her firsthand knowledge of information withheld following the 9/11 attacks.

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Sibel Edmonds…classified.

Ms Edmonds worked as a language specialist for the FBI where she reported serious acts of security breaches and cover-ups, and for that she was retaliated against and ultimately fired. The court proceedings on her case were blocked by the assertion of State Secrets Privilege, and the U.S. Congress has been gagged and prevented from taking up or even discussing her case through retroactive classification issued by the Department of Justice.

According to Classified Woman’s description, the author “takes us on a surreal journey that begins with the secretive FBI and down the dark halls of a feckless Congress to a stonewalling judiciary and finally, to the national security whistleblowers movement she spearheaded.

“Having lived under Middle East dictatorships, Edmonds knows firsthand what can happen when government is allowed to operate in secret. Hers is a sobering perspective that combines painful experience with a rallying cry for the public’s right to know and to hold the lawbreakers accountable. With U.S. citizens increasingly stripped of their rights in a calibrated media blackout, Edmonds’ story is a wake-up call for all Americans who, willingly or unwillingly, traded liberty for security in the wake of 9/11.”

Ms Edmonds also recently published her first novel – a spy thriller titled The Lone Gladio. Although fiction, the book interweaves a lot of factual information, which the author has intimate knowledge of, including assassinations, drug running, false flag ops and the CIA’s and NATO’s secret terrorist-sponsoring program known as ‘Operation Gladio’.

The Lone Gladio (Volume 1)

Ms Edmonds’ first novel.

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Membership of the Underground Knowledge group (on Goodreads.com) has now topped 350 members and includes scientists, historians, conspiracy theorists, authors, students and others from all walks of life. This group is open to everyone! All you need is an enquiring mind, an interest in the world we live in and a desire to learn or to uncover “underground knowledge” on important issues of our times.

To visit our Underground Knowledge group go to: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/142309-underground-knowledge—a-discussion-group